WHY do we have religion? Because fables are FUN.
September 1, 2015 at 11:39 am
(This post was last modified: September 1, 2015 at 12:16 pm by drfuzzy.)
A member posted (after being told that STORIES are not evidence)
Again take what happened to me...
Start with a stranger appearing out of no where asking for a ride, because it is really cold you give him one. and before you can say two words he tells you about everything currently bothering you. (your struggles in life) then tells you how to successfully resolve them. Then tells you about some of the things you asked for in prayer that you've told no one about, tells you how and when they will be answered. Then tells you about things you done and thought you got away with when no one was looking.. Next how about ask him a question in your mind, to only have him stop mid sentence, answer your question, then continue on with what he was telling you about what is to come, and how you will work with/for God, and how you will be give more to be responsible for... and to finish out he disappears in a wide open space in the time it takes one to do a U-turn. Then live out the next 20 years only to see the things He said come true. over and over again.
Screw everyone else and what they had to say, would that be enough for you to believe?
Again, all we need do is Ask, Seek and Knock for the measure of the Holy Spirit promised to us by Christ in luke 11. Then when we get that measure of the Spirit we simply be faithful to it. Meaning you might start to develop a 'different' sense of what is right and what is wrong. You can not ignore that for the sake of your pop morality. Otherwise you will be lost to God. Or you may feel a need/want to learn more, ask question or God forbid read your bible again. You can't silence that. feed this urge to know god better and your efforts will be rewarded. God knows exactly what you need to establish and maintain real belief, all we must do (on our own time/pace) is A/S/K and just be faithful to whatever measure we have been given.
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Drfuzzy's response:
Someone told you everything you had done, prayed for, was telepathic, and changed your whole view of life.
Uh huh. I was about to ask you if you hijacked the woman at the well story very often. But then!
Ooh, you'll never GUESS what happened to me on the way home from work! I ran out of gas. There I was, on the highway in the heat, miles away from any gas station, calling friends for help, when this white Hummer pulled up. This guy got out, and the combination of his blinding white shirt and the sun meant that I couldn't really see his face. I told him that I was out of gas, he said "don't worry" and started pulling out big jugs of water. Two of the most BEAUTIFUL creatures I had ever seen took the jugs, and carried them to my car. When they opened the water jugs, it was obvious that they had somehow turned the water into premium gasoline! As the guys poured it into the tank, the first guy said "Now, please be nicer to theists. And stop telling people I don't exist! If you keep saying stuff like that one of them will go postal."
I answered "But -- the Bible has all of these contradictions in it . . . " He waved his hand - "I know, it's a mess. I didn't write it." "But you could fix it! And you could let everyone know you exist right now, I have a phone . . " "Sorry, it's not in the plan."
I wanted to spend more time with the two creatures and they knew it. They said that they were visiting to find themselves some human tail, but since I was an atheist. I wouldn't do. Besides, they were a hankerin' for a true believer guy that would scream "oh God" all night. I told them you'd be perfect - you'll love them.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME??? It's MY story, and it's PROOF. If you call me a liar you're a poopy-head. You'll be sorry when they show up.
Again take what happened to me...
Start with a stranger appearing out of no where asking for a ride, because it is really cold you give him one. and before you can say two words he tells you about everything currently bothering you. (your struggles in life) then tells you how to successfully resolve them. Then tells you about some of the things you asked for in prayer that you've told no one about, tells you how and when they will be answered. Then tells you about things you done and thought you got away with when no one was looking.. Next how about ask him a question in your mind, to only have him stop mid sentence, answer your question, then continue on with what he was telling you about what is to come, and how you will work with/for God, and how you will be give more to be responsible for... and to finish out he disappears in a wide open space in the time it takes one to do a U-turn. Then live out the next 20 years only to see the things He said come true. over and over again.
Screw everyone else and what they had to say, would that be enough for you to believe?
Again, all we need do is Ask, Seek and Knock for the measure of the Holy Spirit promised to us by Christ in luke 11. Then when we get that measure of the Spirit we simply be faithful to it. Meaning you might start to develop a 'different' sense of what is right and what is wrong. You can not ignore that for the sake of your pop morality. Otherwise you will be lost to God. Or you may feel a need/want to learn more, ask question or God forbid read your bible again. You can't silence that. feed this urge to know god better and your efforts will be rewarded. God knows exactly what you need to establish and maintain real belief, all we must do (on our own time/pace) is A/S/K and just be faithful to whatever measure we have been given.
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Drfuzzy's response:
Someone told you everything you had done, prayed for, was telepathic, and changed your whole view of life.
Uh huh. I was about to ask you if you hijacked the woman at the well story very often. But then!
Ooh, you'll never GUESS what happened to me on the way home from work! I ran out of gas. There I was, on the highway in the heat, miles away from any gas station, calling friends for help, when this white Hummer pulled up. This guy got out, and the combination of his blinding white shirt and the sun meant that I couldn't really see his face. I told him that I was out of gas, he said "don't worry" and started pulling out big jugs of water. Two of the most BEAUTIFUL creatures I had ever seen took the jugs, and carried them to my car. When they opened the water jugs, it was obvious that they had somehow turned the water into premium gasoline! As the guys poured it into the tank, the first guy said "Now, please be nicer to theists. And stop telling people I don't exist! If you keep saying stuff like that one of them will go postal."
I answered "But -- the Bible has all of these contradictions in it . . . " He waved his hand - "I know, it's a mess. I didn't write it." "But you could fix it! And you could let everyone know you exist right now, I have a phone . . " "Sorry, it's not in the plan."
I wanted to spend more time with the two creatures and they knew it. They said that they were visiting to find themselves some human tail, but since I was an atheist. I wouldn't do. Besides, they were a hankerin' for a true believer guy that would scream "oh God" all night. I told them you'd be perfect - you'll love them.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME??? It's MY story, and it's PROOF. If you call me a liar you're a poopy-head. You'll be sorry when they show up.
"The family that prays together...is brainwashing their children."- Albert Einstein