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Stupid things religious people say
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(March 29, 2025 at 7:41 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: Got it; so all the ad homs are how you people show appreciation to each other, that it? I know Yanks pride themselves on their assholery, so maybe I'm just ignorant to how deep that culture goes.

Should I talk to you as others talk to me? Gonna tolerate that? Or do the rules continue to only work one way?

And yet another one who doesn't understand the difference between an ad hominem and an insult. I never get tired of explaining this, so here goes:

If I say, 'Weasel is a pig fucker', that's not an ad hominem.

If I say, 'Weasel is a pig fucker and his argument are wrong', that's also not an ad hominem.

But if I say, 'Weasel is a pig fucker, therefore his arguments are wrong', THAT'S an ad hominem.

I hope this helps, pig fucker.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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A dead pedophile is bringing dead kids back to life.

Quote:How prayers to controversial dead Cardinal George Pell 'brought a little boy back to life' after he stopped breathing for almost an hour: 'It's a miracle'

George Pell has been credited with the unlikely recovery of a young American boy who stopped breathing for 52 minutes after he fell into a swimming pool.

Parents of the 18-month-old Vincent are said to have prayed for the intercession of the late cardinal before he was discharged from an Arizona hospital.

Pell's supporters may cite the boy's unlikely recovery as one of two miracles required for canonisation as a saint of the Catholic Church.

Vincent was said to have spent 10 days in hospital before being discharged.

The boy's uncle, a Catholic priest, is reported to have contacted Pell's former secretary Father Joseph Hamilton requesting prayers for Vincent's recovery.

Earlier this year, the ABC reported that two alleged victims of the late cardinal had been granted compensation by the federal government's National Redress Scheme.

One man was offered the compensation in January 2023 just five weeks before Pell died of cardiac arrest following hip surgery in Rome.

Using a lower standard of proof than the criminal courts, the scheme found it was 'reasonably likely' Pell had groped the then-eight-year-old's genitals at a public swimming pool in Ballarat.

The other compensation payment related to the alleged rape of a then-nine-year-old student at Ballarat's St Francis Xavier Primary School.

The first man was received $45,000 in compensation from the scheme while the second was granted $95,000.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...ayers.html
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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Lee Strobel has a new book! Yes, that Lee Strobel. His new book is called Seeing the Supernatural: Investigating Angels, Demons, Mystical Dreams, Near-Death Encounters, and Other Mysteries of the Unseen World.

Let's see how Christianity Today describes it:

Quote:His investigation ranges across an array of topics, including miracles, unusual dreams and visions, near-death experiences, ghosts, special experiences of Jesus, and the Resurrection itself.

Yes, he is investigating magic.


Quote:But his overall body of evidence—incorporating Christian doctrine, scientific research, and firsthand testimony—presents a plausible case for affirming a nonphysical or spiritual dimension to reality.

He has evidence for angels & demons! Why not then write a scientific paper and get a Nobel prize? Or is it one of those Christian "evidence" - something lame that you simply have to have faith it's real?

Quote:In each chapter, Strobel first introduces a problematic issue and then interviews a Christian expert, whose testimony on the subject provides reasons for accepting the traditional Christian understanding.

Yeap, that seems to be the case.


Quote:His writing is clear and accessible, avoiding technical jargon and complex arguments.

Phew. That's a relief. I don't know about you, but when I read something scientific about magic and fairies I rather have it written down in a layman's jargon and not in that smart, technical, scientific language.


Quote:Resurrection chapter is relying heavily on interviews with detective-turned-apologist J. Warner Wallace.

Well, you can't write a book on the plausibility of Christian worldview without the world's dumbest detective.


Quote:Although in some earlier books Strobel included interviews with skeptics, this time the experts are all Christians.

Of course, we don't want to confuse Christians with some smart arguments. It's already hard keeping people believing in this bullshit as it is. Why risk it?

And the rest of the article is attacking and distorting the scientific method, like

Quote:Is it truly possible in our scientific and technological age to be a rational person and still have faith in the existence of a realm we can’t see, touch, or analyze in a test tube?

Because anything is possible, including Christianity, when you throw away the scientific method.

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teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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(March 29, 2025 at 7:41 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: Got it; so all the ad homs are how you people show appreciation to each other, that it? I know Yanks pride themselves on their assholery, so maybe I'm just ignorant to how deep that culture goes.

Should I talk to you as others talk to me? Gonna tolerate that? Or do the rules continue to only work one way?
Maybe the dishonesty, misogyny, racism, and hateful bigotry has worn people down. You came here to peddle your superstitious wares, no point sulking when they don't sell...you need to understand your core market better, the sheeple looking for your snake oil are out there, in abundance, just not in here.
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(April 2, 2025 at 11:55 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: A dead pedophile is bringing dead kids back to life.

I think this might solve a problem the church has been having. If they can crack the whole zombie kid thing. They are already dead so who is it hurting?
"I'm thick." - Me
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Christians talk to tornadoes to go away or their friend Jesus will beat them up.



teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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^^^ I wonder if the neighbors home values or insurance rates have changed?
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental. 
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Have you ever attended an invalid wedding? - how to make a problem out of something that is for normal people not problematic.


Quote:What are the rules for attending a non-Catholic wedding?

If a Catholic attends a clearly invalid wedding in the normal festive spirit, they are celebrating something which is, at least objectively “on paper,” a falsehood.

Another issue is the potential for scandal. Technically “scandal” doesn’t mean something “shocking”; it means causing others to stumble. If a Catholic — especially one with a ministerial or teaching role, like clergy or catechists — were to attend an obviously invalid wedding, this could send the message that it’s not a big deal to ignore the church’s marriage laws.

At the end of the day, you personally need to weigh the need to avoid causing scandal with potential concerns about family unity, keeping in mind what is truly best for the souls of those involved. I would suggest discussing your situation with a good priest who knows you well in real life.

https://thedialog.org/catechetical-corne...c-wedding/
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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(April 5, 2025 at 12:35 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Have you ever attended an invalid wedding? - how to make a problem out of something that is for normal people not problematic.


Quote:What are the rules for attending a non-Catholic wedding?

If a Catholic attends a clearly invalid wedding in the normal festive spirit, they are celebrating something which is, at least objectively “on paper,” a falsehood.

Another issue is the potential for scandal. Technically “scandal” doesn’t mean something “shocking”; it means causing others to stumble. If a Catholic — especially one with a ministerial or teaching role, like clergy or catechists — were to attend an obviously invalid wedding, this could send the message that it’s not a big deal to ignore the church’s marriage laws.

At the end of the day, you personally need to weigh the need to avoid causing scandal with potential concerns about family unity, keeping in mind what is truly best for the souls of those involved. I would suggest discussing your situation with a good priest who knows you well in real life.

https://thedialog.org/catechetical-corne...c-wedding/

I can 100% get behind this.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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I can't link to it, but I just watched a clip on Twitter of a Christian couple ordering a twister not to touch down near their home, "in the name of god".

And this, folks, is why some of these idiots can't be reasoned with or talked to.

Best to just sterilise them, and let them run free in a fenced off field somewhere, far from the rest of us.

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