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RE: The Magic of Atheism?
March 19, 2012 at 3:57 am
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(March 18, 2012 at 10:08 pm)whateverist Wrote: Is he putting us on perhaps? Reminds me a bit of the mad hatter from Alice in Wonderland. To rescue our cosmological understanding of the origins of the universe from base magical thinking we must look to God. Stuff can't just pop into being outta nuthin so God must have always existed and have used His naturally supernatural powers to make everything just as we see it today. The scientific thing to do would be to set aside our human arrogance and thank God Almighty for giving us his word so that we might have the understanding of the universe that is best for us to have given our diminutive, mortal brains. A proper understanding of the universe starts with an admission that only God can truly understand it. Fellow atheists, let us fall on our knees and thank this emissary of the living God for coming onto our forums and allowing the light of God to show us The Way.
We REALLY NEED A sarcasm smilie Tibers!!
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RE: The Magic of Atheism?
March 19, 2012 at 4:02 am
(March 18, 2012 at 4:29 pm)Norfolk And Chance Wrote: We don't and can't know what happened before the big bang - did it come from something that was there previously, did it come from nothing?
This is why atheists are close-minded. Theists are the ones on the cutting edge, not atheists. Atheists have given up trying to know.
Eventually, there will be a type of theism that comes from theoretical cosmology. They will have no other choice when after another hundred years they still can't explain gravity or why the universe is expanding, or what was happening before the big bang or the hard problem of consciousness.
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RE: The Magic of Atheism?
March 19, 2012 at 5:34 am
(March 19, 2012 at 4:02 am)Eyem4Christ Wrote: This is why atheists are close-minded. Theists are the ones on the cutting edge, not atheists. Atheists have given up trying to know.
Oh the irony! You are the one that is postulating and have the conclusion taken that a god exixts and created everything, while most atheists will acknowledge that we still don't have all the answers to everything. If according tou we're close-minded, then your mind is so open your brain has fallen off.
Quote:Eventually, there will be a type of theism that comes from theoretical cosmology. They will have no other choice when after another hundred years they still can't explain gravity or why the universe is expanding, or what was happening before the big bang or the hard problem of consciousness.
So you are saying its impossible to know these things? And you called us close-minded the paragraph before, LMAO. And wow, just wow, you are so wise to know what theism is going to be in the future!
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RE: The Magic of Atheism?
March 19, 2012 at 5:37 am
(March 19, 2012 at 4:02 am)Eyem4Christ Wrote: This is why atheists are close-minded. Theists are the ones on the cutting edge, not atheists. Atheists have given up trying to know.
You're argument is that we don't know but continue to try is giving up whereas proposing an all powerful deity did everything isn't. You're being silly.
You've ignored all the long posts deconstructing your opinion, and you can't even be bothered to defend yourself.
Seems that intellectual laziness is a running theme with you.
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RE: The Magic of Atheism?
March 19, 2012 at 6:23 am
(March 19, 2012 at 4:02 am)Eyem4Christ Wrote: This is why atheists are close-minded. Theists are the ones on the cutting edge, not atheists. Atheists have given up trying to know.
Eventually, there will be a type of theism that comes from theoretical cosmology. They will have no other choice when after another hundred years they still can't explain gravity or why the universe is expanding, or what was happening before the big bang or the hard problem of consciousness. Wow, there is just so much FAIL in this post.
That is obviously why there is so many atheist scientists probing the edges of the universe and the deepest secrets of the sub atomic realm.
Whilst christian "scientists"(oxymoron) are trying to make the universe fit their bronze age fairytale.
No.... saying "Goddidit" is not knowing anything!!!
If fact it is the ultimate surrender of the will to discover.
BZZZT you fail, try again.
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RE: The Magic of Atheism?
March 19, 2012 at 7:56 am
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Eyem4Christ Wrote:There’s only two ways to look at this. One is atheistic and suggests that for no reason at all the entire universe popped into existence out of nothing with these particular properties in place for no reason. The only problem with that is that these four fundamental forces were needed before the universe existed. They were needed for the universe to have ever come into existence to begin with. They had to exist prior to it. You missed the other possibility which is that the universe always existed. String theory suggests that there are actually 9 dimensions, all being very small, but 3 of them expanded into what we now recognise as our universe. That's the explanation in a nutshell. Google it.
Eyem4Christ Wrote: Atheists have given up trying to know. Was the most sensitive piece of machinery for measuring new particles , the hadron collider, built purely by theist engineers and scientists?
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RE: The Magic of Atheism?
March 19, 2012 at 8:33 am
(March 19, 2012 at 4:02 am)Eyem4Christ Wrote: (March 18, 2012 at 4:29 pm)Norfolk And Chance Wrote: We don't and can't know what happened before the big bang - did it come from something that was there previously, did it come from nothing?
This is why atheists are close-minded. Theists are the ones on the cutting edge, not atheists. Atheists have given up trying to know.
Eventually, there will be a type of theism that comes from theoretical cosmology. They will have no other choice when after another hundred years they still can't explain gravity or why the universe is expanding, or what was happening before the big bang or the hard problem of consciousness.
Yeah, ok, buddy, keep telling yourself that. In the face of your religion's growing irrelevancy, I'm sure that thought brings you at least some minor measure of comfort, so I'll let you cling to that...you poor bastard.
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RE: The Magic of Atheism?
March 19, 2012 at 8:43 am
(March 19, 2012 at 4:02 am)Eyem4Christ Wrote: Theists are the ones on the cutting edge
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RE: The Magic of Atheism?
March 19, 2012 at 8:45 am
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Eyem4Christ Wrote: Atheists have given up trying to know. Quote: Was the most sensitive piece of machinery for measuring new particles , the hadron collider, built purely by theist engineers and scientists?
yeah, it looks like we've given up doesn't it.
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RE: The Magic of Atheism?
March 19, 2012 at 8:45 am
From some one who desperately NEEDS a sky-daddy to stroke is ineffectual penis I would not expect any more..puny little religious man-thing
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