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RE: Evolution
April 10, 2012 at 8:55 pm
(April 10, 2012 at 8:45 pm)Kratos Wrote: (April 10, 2012 at 4:46 am)NoMoreFaith Wrote: So telling people about mythology which contradicts scientific facts, confuses them enough to think for themselves.
Didn't it hurt to pull that out of your ass?
Scientific facts are under political control, we are not out of the Dark Ages yet.
Humans don't run on science, reason and logic, they run on primal instinct, emotion and conditioned emotion.
What drives you to be athiest, not science etc but emotion. A logical being would not care if people believed in God or not.
There is reality, but give me a perfect constant so we know what it is.
"I think therefore I am" is that good enough for you? Do you really know if you exist let alone God? This planet we have with life, an oasis in an endless ocean of black freezing space. Do you buy it is it real? Could it be that God is the only thing real and we are just a dream?
You misunderstand what an atheist is, yet again. An atheist is simply someone who doesn't believe in god. Many atheists don't care if people believe- I know I don't. You display a startling lack of knowledge with your post. I've said from the beginning, I only care if theists try to undo scientific advancement through ignorance and bigotry.
Now as for science being under the control of politics- no. If that were the case, the fundies in charge of America wouldn't let evolution be taught in schools. There is no doubt bias on science, but if you dream for a moment that your random, biased and sputtering assertions are or ever can be more accurate than science, you are a fool.
Your last part- about humans being a dream- I'll buy when I see the evidence. Until then, you're just insane.
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RE: Evolution
April 10, 2012 at 9:01 pm
(April 10, 2012 at 8:45 pm)Kratos Wrote: Scientific facts are under political control you are insane. How did politics set G,g,c,etc... to the value they are. Quote:Humans don't run on science, reason and logic
Then explain how cells work without using science, reason or logic. Quote:There is reality, but give me a perfect constant so we know what it is.
You really aren't too good at thinking are you? Here are two for your perusal....pi and e.
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RE: Evolution
April 10, 2012 at 9:04 pm
(April 10, 2012 at 8:45 pm)Kratos Wrote: There is reality, but give me a perfect constant so we know what it is.
A constant? Such as what, a formula that can calculate the force of gravity on an object? We have that. Pi? We have that. Formulas for acceleration, friction, etc? We have those. Standard rules that the universe abides by? We have those. Try again.
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RE: Evolution
April 10, 2012 at 9:09 pm
Give me a god so we know what it is?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Evolution
April 10, 2012 at 9:15 pm
(April 10, 2012 at 9:09 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Give me a god so we know what it is?
Well, he's bashed Jewish people extensively in other posts. He's called Christians preachy, and he's said some positive things about Allah. He's also advocated anarchy. So I think he's most likely a Muslim Anarchist, though he won't say.
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RE: Evolution
April 10, 2012 at 9:18 pm
(This post was last modified: April 10, 2012 at 9:19 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
No such thing. It would be more likely that he enjoys pretending to be one or the other.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Evolution
April 10, 2012 at 10:00 pm
(April 10, 2012 at 8:45 pm)Kratos Wrote: Scientific facts are under political control, we are not out of the Dark Ages yet.
Humans don't run on science, reason and logic, they run on primal instinct, emotion and conditioned emotion.
What drives you to be athiest, not science etc but emotion. A logical being would not care if people believed in God or not.
There is reality, but give me a perfect constant so we know what it is.
"I think therefore I am" is that good enough for you? Do you really know if you exist let alone God? This planet we have with life, an oasis in an endless ocean of black freezing space. Do you buy it is it real? Could it be that God is the only thing real and we are just a dream?
Don't assume that what is true for you is true for everyone else as well. Maybe you run on primal instinct, emotion and conditioned response, but that does not mean that everyone is incapable of running on reason and logic.
A logical being would very much care what those he associates with believe, because their actions are guided by their beliefs and those actions may end up helping or harming the being. I wouldn't assume that every atheist comes to atheism through reason and logic, but I know I did and know this because emotionally, I'm still a theist. If I'd let emotions dictate my beliefs, then I'd have liked to believe that there is something benevolent, just and powerful out there that is watching out for me and that is what I would have believed. But rationally, there is no way I can come to that conclusion and that is why I'm an atheist.
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RE: Evolution
April 10, 2012 at 10:07 pm
(This post was last modified: April 10, 2012 at 10:11 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
I'd like to believe in a whole host of little godlings running around, some of them not so nice and benevolent. What a wonderfully rich narrative we've created for ourselves with this whole god business. Wonderfully rich just so long as we don't actually swallow the koolaid, that is. I half expect some fairy tale monster to come running out from behind my shed everytime I go outside at night, no shit. Real, heart-pounding anxiety over this. Thankfully, they don't. I was an atheist long before I ever formed an emotional opinion of the subject, and my emotional opinions of that subject aren't so single-minded as one might think.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Evolution
April 10, 2012 at 10:31 pm
(April 10, 2012 at 8:45 pm)Kratos Wrote: Humans don't run on science, reason and logic, they run on primal instinct, emotion and conditioned emotion. Instinct and emotion are described by logic and scientific theory, so your sentence is nonsensical.
(April 10, 2012 at 8:45 pm)Kratos Wrote: What drives you to be athiest, not science etc but emotion. A logical being would not care if people believed in God or not. First, logic does not indicates unemotional, logic just indicates consistency. Second, a logical being would care if said belief of others resulted in choices or actions that affected them.
(April 10, 2012 at 8:45 pm)Kratos Wrote: There is reality, but give me a perfect constant so we know what it is. That doesn't make any sense, constants are fundamentally arbitrary - so is reality.
(April 10, 2012 at 8:45 pm)Kratos Wrote: This planet we have with life, an oasis in an endless ocean of black freezing space. Do you buy it is it real? Could it be that God is the only thing real and we are just a dream? God is a really bad dreamer because it isn't in my life (i.e. its own dream). Either that or I'm God. You pick.
P.S. If I'm God, I'm telling you to ignore me and play more video games instead.
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RE: Evolution
April 11, 2012 at 12:29 am
(This post was last modified: April 11, 2012 at 12:31 am by R-e-n-n-a-t.)
I suppose Kratos would have a heart attack if I told him that some people worship a Goddess? So far he's talked about only Gods and Hitler-babble.
Actually, hasn't he ventured into the realm of preaching by now? He hasn't responded coherently to anything, and it's clear he insists on pushing his blind dogma. If Atheist Anarchist hadn't been Tiberius in disguise, I'd assume he was Kratos as a multi. And AtheistAnarchist was designed by Tiberius to be as mind-numbingly stupid as possible. That has to be a little sad from Kratos's point of view.
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