Evidence Against God

[Abishalom]

I don't know is not an answer. Either God did it or He didn't. Which one?

It most certainly is. Just because you can only think in binary conditions doesn't mean the rest of us suffer from such limitations.

It isn't when you claim that the evidence suggests atheism as the default position. So binary conditions are sufficient in this case.

Well, it is the default position in a newborn's mind. No amount of your mental gymnastics is going to change that fact. But I digress....

Also, I love how you completely ignored posts# 49-51. Typical bible thumper, something doesn't agree with your world view & you ignore it.

Seen your kinda here a thousand times, with the same tired, lame arguments.

Actually that's a lie. There are some scientific studies that suggest infants naturally belief in God and that things have a purpose. And how did I "ignore" post 49-52? You did not address me, but if you want me to a reply. Scientist CREATED life in a lab under controlled conditions. Just let it marinate...

[Paul the Human]

There are some scientific studies that suggest infants naturally belief in God and that things have a purpose.

Haha!! Link us to said "scientific studies", please.

[Abishalom]

There are some scientific studies that suggest infants naturally belief in God and that things have a purpose.

Haha!! Link us to said "scientific studies", please.

Here's a few...
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/201...103828.htm
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion...laims.html

[Paul the Human]

This does not support what you said at all.

Studies by Emily Reed Burdett and Justin Barrett, from the University of Oxford, suggest that children below the age of five find it easier to believe in some superhuman properties than to understand similar human limitations.

And the second one is an article about someone making a claim. There is no substantiation for that claim presented in the article.

What the science actually shows is how the brain works and how it is predisposed to believe in the supernatural as a coping mechanism for things it doesn't comprehend.

No god required.

[Abishalom]

This does not support what you said at all.

Studies by Emily Reed Burdett and Justin Barrett, from the University of Oxford, suggest that children below the age of five find it easier to believe in some superhuman properties than to understand similar human limitations.

And the second one is an article about someone making a claim. There is no substantiation for that claim presented in the article.

What the science actually shows is how the brain works and how it is predisposed to believe in the supernatural as a coping mechanism for things it doesn't comprehend.

No god required.

Did you read the WHOLE article or did you just choose 1 sentence to make up a lie?

The researchers point out that the project was not setting out to prove the existence of god or otherwise, but sought to find out whether concepts such as gods and an afterlife appear to be entirely taught or basic expressions of human nature.

[Ace Otana]

This does not support what you said at all.

Studies by Emily Reed Burdett and Justin Barrett, from the University of Oxford, suggest that children below the age of five find it easier to believe in some superhuman properties than to understand similar human limitations.

And the second one is an article about someone making a claim. There is no substantiation for that claim presented in the article.

What the science actually shows is how the brain works and how it is predisposed to believe in the supernatural as a coping mechanism for things it doesn't comprehend.

No god required.

It stems from human imagination. We do it naturally even as adults. Our brain tries to fill in the gaps. Of course as an adult you learn to reason and think things through (though not all of us mature to that level sadly).

[Abishalom]

This does not support what you said at all.

Studies by Emily Reed Burdett and Justin Barrett, from the University of Oxford, suggest that children below the age of five find it easier to believe in some superhuman properties than to understand similar human limitations.

And the second one is an article about someone making a claim. There is no substantiation for that claim presented in the article.

What the science actually shows is how the brain works and how it is predisposed to believe in the supernatural as a coping mechanism for things it doesn't comprehend.

No god required.

It stems from human imagination. We do it naturally even as adults. Our brain tries to fill in the gaps. Of course as an adult you learn to reason and think things through (though not all of us mature to that level sadly).

Look at you rationalizing. Can you prove your statement (that what adults do is the same as babies predisposition)?

The researchers point out that the project was not setting out to prove the existence of god or otherwise, but sought to find out whether concepts such as gods and an afterlife appear to be entirely taught or basic expressions of human nature.

I posted the articles to show that atheism is NOT the default position as Jaysyn claimed not to prove the existence of God to you.

[Paul the Human]

Did you read the WHOLE article or did you just choose 1 sentence to make up a lie?

Don't you call me a liar. That 'science' that you are talking about, as I already said, has nothing to with gods and everything to do with the brain's coping mechanism concerning the unknown. It is man that installs the concept of gods. The science only shows a predisposition to believe in the unfounded and supernatural when the truth is yet to be explained.

Read it with less of a bias and you will see. Now I am done with you. You've pissed me off.

[Abishalom]

Did you read the WHOLE article or did you just choose 1 sentence to make up a lie?

Don't you call me a liar. That 'science' that you are talking about, as I already said, has nothing to with gods and everything to do with the brain's coping mechanism concerning the unknown. It is man that installs the concept of gods. The science only shows a predisposition to believe in the unfounded and supernatural when the truth is yet to be explained.

Read it with less of a bias and you will see. Now I am done with you. You've pissed me off.

Where did I call you a liar? If the shoe fits... Anyway, I said don't fragment 1 sentence to make up a lie (whether it was purposeful or not) that the article claimed the predisposition is just coping mechanism. It shows bias on you part, because you ignored my purpose for even posting the article. I'm not trying to prove God to you. Jaysyn claimed that atheism was the default position of babies. Obviously he was wrong. The articles did shine light on the FACT that babies are PREDISPOSED to believing in a higher power, that things have a PURPOSE, and in life after death (you know this things you "forgot" to mention in that one sentence you quoted). Not the atheists position.

[Ace Otana]

The researchers point out that the project was not setting out to prove the existence of god or otherwise, but sought to find out whether concepts such as gods and an afterlife appear to be entirely taught or basic expressions of human nature.

I posted to articles to prove that atheism is NOT the default position as Jaysyn claimed not to prove the existence of God to you.

Perhaps you should read more carefully. The question has been made whether such concepts like god's and some afterlife had been brought to them or they invented such concepts independently. If I'm not mistaken, children lower than five do end up in churches and other religious settings. I was. Never believed it of course but I do know the idea was taught to me.

A real test would be a child that had never heard of the word 'god' nor been in any religious setting and still develop such concepts. Even if they do, it could be considered by the fact that as pattern seeking primates with a very active imagination and a natural desire to fill in gaps of knowledge, we naturally invent such ideas to do just that.

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Don't you call me a liar. That 'science' that you are talking about, as I already said, has nothing to with gods and everything to do with the brain's coping mechanism concerning the unknown. It is man that installs the concept of gods. The science only shows a predisposition to believe in the unfounded and supernatural when the truth is yet to be explained.

Read it with less of a bias and you will see. Now I am done with you. You've pissed me off.

Put him on ignore. I'm about to do just that myself.