To Christians who aren't creationists

[Minimalist]

Because God dictated Genesis, and Revelations is John's personal description of what he saw.

Everyday you demonstrate that you have become a bigger lunatic than the day before.

[Shell B]

I didn't realize there was even a single part of the Bible that was an eyewitness account. Did I miss something?

[Minimalist]

You missed the latest statement of xtian delusion.

[Tea Earl Grey Hot]

I didn't realize there was even a single part of the Bible that was an eyewitness account. Did I miss something?

Fundamentalists like to treat the Gospels like if they were the journal of an investigative reporter who happened to be an apostle. Some of the OT books are thought by them to be the eye witness testimony of Moses.

Edit: When asked how Moses narrated his own death, they say "why of course, that's where Joshua took over the task of writing." Ugh.

[infamouscheater]

Drich, I read the thread you posted up until it got to a frustrated stalemate(no one could agree), and no where did it answer my question. lots of discussion on who wrote what, but it's still all hearsay. And no matter how much people hold up oral tradition as sacred, even the most well intended person will confuse something that is told to him as he passes it along. And that has been proven time and time again.

[Neo-Scholastic]

...John did his best to describe what he did not understand. God when He dictated Genesis did not have that problem.

You must agree that at the very least the Word is filled with figurative language and symbolic import. Also, look at the bibles celebration of romantic love in the Song of Songs. Now back to John. The 'Lamb' seems to be a pretty obvious symbol, the same one the Baptist used when he yelled, 'Behold the Lamb of God..." I doubt he confused Jesus with sheep, even taking into account the long hair. Are you saying that his references to the Lamb, the Spirit and the Bride, the Four Horsemen and other images are in the same category as an isolated tribesman seeing a 747 and calling it a strange silver bird? As for God dictating the Torah to Moses...I also believe the Torah is particularly significant, but I see no reason to consider the mode of its reception any different from the rest of the Word.

[Oldandeasilyconfused]

I didn't realize there was even a single part of the Bible that was an eyewitness account. Did I miss something?

The Book of Revelations does indeed seem to a first hand experience----of at least two people under the influence of a powerful hallucinogen or having a psychotic episode.

In terms of the genre of drug-induced literature,it's really quite pathetically aweful.

Compare it with say Thomas De Quincy's "Confessions Of An English Opium Eater" and "Kubla Khan" (and other poems) Samuel Colleridge.


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onfessions of an English Opium-Eater (1821) is an autobiographical account written by Thomas De Quincey, about his laudanum (opium and alcohol) addiction and its effect on his life. The Confessions was "the first major work De Quincey published and the one which won him fame almost overnight..."[1]

First published anonymously in September and October 1821 in the London Magazine,[2] the Confessions was released in book form in 1822, and again in 1856, in an edition revised by De Quince

-----De Quincey's Confessions influenced psychology and abnormal psychology, and attitudes towards dreams and imaginative literature.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confessions...pium-Eater


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The first few lines of "Kubla Khan"

In Xanadu did Kubla Khan
A stately pleasure-dome decree :
Where Alph, the sacred river, ran
Through caverns measureless to man
Down to a sunless sea. (lines 1-5)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kubla_Khan_%28poem%29

[AthiestAtheist]

To Christians who aren't creationists:

You're only 1 step away from being atheist!

[Welsh cake]

Because in our Greatest Command we are told to Love our Lord God with all of our Being (Heart, Mind Spirit, and Strength.) In order to Love God with all of my mind I must reconcile what the fossil record, or rather the atheist community's interpretation of the fossil record would have us believe.

Why does a god need to be loved that much that you would need to deny the facts of life you assert he created and established?

You know, Drich, I'm getting really fed up of talking to you.

[Minimalist]

Because in our Greatest Command we are told to Love our Lord God with all of our Being

Makes your god into something of a neurotic cocksucker, doesn't it?


I knew a broad like that. I dumped her ass.