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RE: Atheists are Intolerant
May 7, 2012 at 6:40 pm
It. Doesn't. Matter. Whether. Anyone. Gets. Convicted.
The point that is being made is that the law is unjust, whether or not in practice it gets carried out often. The law should not exist, full stop. What's hard to understand about that, you fruit? Get it through your thick head that it is a matter of principle.
I didn't ask you whether you condoned homosexuality, I asked you if you thought the death penalty for it was just. I'm happy enough, because you've shown through your constant evasion of this question that you are uncomfortable with your answer one way or another, so I no longer require an answer from you. If you want to grow a pair of balls and give an honest answer, be my guest.
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RE: Atheists are Intolerant
May 7, 2012 at 6:42 pm
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RE: Atheists are Intolerant
May 7, 2012 at 6:49 pm
(This post was last modified: May 7, 2012 at 6:52 pm by Abishalom.)
(May 7, 2012 at 6:40 pm)ElDinero Wrote: It. Doesn't. Matter. Whether. Anyone. Gets. Convicted.
The point that is being made is that the law is unjust, whether or not in practice it gets carried out often. The law should not exist, full stop. What's hard to understand about that, you fruit? Get it through your thick head that it is a matter of principle.
I didn't ask you whether you condoned homosexuality, I asked you if you thought the death penalty for it was just. I'm happy enough, because you've shown through your constant evasion of this question that you are uncomfortable with your answer one way or another, so I no longer require an answer from you. If you want to grow a pair of balls and give an honest answer, be my guest.
If nobody is getting convicted nor are they receiving said penalty then it is obviously a just law for previously stated reasons. I did not give you a direct answer because you're just being devious. I simply asked for someone to give me examples of the bible teaching us that we are to do bad things. This has been totally ignored by you in your attempt to create this allusion of bigotry. That is why I dismissed your question. You can ride you high horse and follow your "moral compass". Obviously that 'moral compass" tells you absolutely nothing about actually addressing your opponents claims and instead attack your opponent.
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RE: Atheists are Intolerant
May 7, 2012 at 6:52 pm
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruelty/nt_list.html
Might want to run through this list. NT only in case you're one of those ones who thinks the OT doesn't count.
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RE: Atheists are Intolerant
May 7, 2012 at 6:54 pm
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(May 7, 2012 at 6:52 pm)Annik Wrote: http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruelty/nt_list.html
Might want to run through this list. NT only in case you're one of those ones who thinks the OT doesn't count. Nice try, but I don't believe in hell (you're using the wrong version) because it's not supported by the bible. Most (if not all) of those verses are parables not literal (Mark 4:34, Matthew 13:34).
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RE: Atheists are Intolerant
May 7, 2012 at 7:03 pm
(May 7, 2012 at 6:49 pm)Abishalom Wrote: If nobody is getting convicted nor are they receiving said penalty then it is obviously a just law for previously stated reasons. I did not give you a direct answer because you're just being devious. I simply asked for someone to give me examples of the bible teaching us that we are to do bad things. This has been totally ignored by you in your attempt to create this allusion of bigotry. That is why I dismissed your question. You can ride you high horse and follow your "moral compass". Obviously that 'moral compass" tells you absolutely nothing about actually addressing your opponents claims and instead attack your opponent.
If NOBODY is getting convicted, then it's a pointless law. Still doesn't make it just. Do you understand the difference or not? Since the law exists, there is the potential for someone to be convicted of it, no matter how unlikely that may seem to you (and as has been previously mentioned, it does happen in countries today, though never in secular countries bizarrely enough...). I don't care if the punishment requires ten, three or no witnesses, or if the punishment is death, jail, a fine or a slap on the wrist. It shouldn't exist. The fact that this needs to be spelled out for you repeatedly paints you as quite a thick twat.
You can scoff at me having a moral compass all you like, but I don't really see what your point is. I do have one and apply it constantly - you've already proven unable or unwilling to do the same. I don't really see why you're saying I haven't addressed your claims either - coming from somebody who has just admitted to deliberately not giving a direct answer, I find that mildly hilarious. I don't even know what claims you're talking about. I came into the conversation at a point when you were making excuses for the Bible and backed you into a corner because you were trying to avoid admitting your prejudice and I don't like people doing that because it's, to use a word of yours, devious.
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RE: Atheists are Intolerant
May 7, 2012 at 7:08 pm
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(May 7, 2012 at 7:03 pm)ElDinero Wrote: (May 7, 2012 at 6:49 pm)Abishalom Wrote: If nobody is getting convicted nor are they receiving said penalty then it is obviously a just law for previously stated reasons. I did not give you a direct answer because you're just being devious. I simply asked for someone to give me examples of the bible teaching us that we are to do bad things. This has been totally ignored by you in your attempt to create this allusion of bigotry. That is why I dismissed your question. You can ride you high horse and follow your "moral compass". Obviously that 'moral compass" tells you absolutely nothing about actually addressing your opponents claims and instead attack your opponent.
If NOBODY is getting convicted, then it's a pointless law. Still doesn't make it just. Do you understand the difference or not? Since the law exists, there is the potential for someone to be convicted of it, no matter how unlikely that may seem to you (and as has been previously mentioned, it does happen in countries today, though never in secular countries bizarrely enough...). I don't care if the punishment requires ten, three or no witnesses, or if the punishment is death, jail, a fine or a slap on the wrist. It shouldn't exist. The fact that this needs to be spelled out for you repeatedly paints you as quite a thick twat.
You can scoff at me having a moral compass all you like, but I don't really see what your point is. I do have one and apply it constantly - you've already proven unable or unwilling to do the same. I don't really see why you're saying I haven't addressed your claims either - coming from somebody who has just admitted to deliberately not giving a direct answer, I find that mildly hilarious. I don't even know what claims you're talking about. I came into the conversation at a point when you were making excuses for the Bible and backed you into a corner because you were trying to avoid admitting your prejudice and I don't like people doing that because it's, to use a word of yours, devious. 10+ pages you dragged this discussion about homosexuality while ignoring my simple request. You replied to my simple request with your own set of demands (while ignoring my simple request) and then you are mad that I ignored your request. Do you see the irony?
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RE: Atheists are Intolerant
May 7, 2012 at 7:12 pm
10+? Don't know how many posts per page you have your forum set to, but those maths don't tally with mine, champ.
Like I said (can you read, you illiterate fuck?), when I came into the thread you were defending the Bible being homophobic. From there I asked you questions. I don't recall you asking me something back - if you'd care to refresh my memory or link me, I'll be happy to answer, as soon as you've answered with a yes or no answer whether a death penalty, or indeed any punishment is morally just for the act of being homosexual.
As I said at the start, if you're that desperate to not have to give an answer to a question, then I suspect it's because you know your answer makes you look like a tosser, which is exactly what you are.
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RE: Atheists are Intolerant
May 7, 2012 at 7:13 pm
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Quote:Why do you atheist care so much about homosexuals
Why do you care so little?
'As atheists' we don't care. As PEOPLE ,some of us have a sense of justice, which you obviously have failed to develop.
I think you're a troll, unlike DT who seems to be simply pig ignorant and rather stupid,with a martyr complex.
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RE: Atheists are Intolerant
May 7, 2012 at 7:27 pm
(May 7, 2012 at 7:12 pm)ElDinero Wrote: 10+? Don't know how many posts per page you have your forum set to, but those maths don't tally with mine, champ.
Like I said, when I came into the thread you were defending the Bible being homophobic. From there I asked you questions. I don't recall you asking me something back - if you'd care to refresh my memory or link me, I'll be happy to answer, as soon as you've answered with a yes or no answer whether a death penalty, or indeed any punishment is morally just for the act of being homosexual.
As I said at the start, if you're that desperate to not have to give an answer to a question, then I suspect it's because you know your answer makes you look like a tosser, which is exactly what you are. Usually if you come into a thread that's 15+ pages long it would be a good idea to read the previous pages (just a suggestion). Anyway, I never brought up homosexuality at all. I simply asked someone to give me a few examples of the bible teaching us to do bad things (10+ pages later there are still no examples) which stemmed from a disagreement on earlier pages.
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