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Baby born with anencephaly to please jesus?
#81
RE: Baby born with anencephaly to please jesus?
(May 25, 2012 at 8:00 pm)Annik Wrote:
(May 25, 2012 at 7:51 pm)Phil Wrote: The thoughts in our brains are about something? How so, they are only neural circuits?
Can we agree that the brain is responsible for abstract thought and that thoughts are something we experience every second of the day?

Sure but you said our thoughts are about something. How so, they are only electrical impulses in neural circuits. Please explain your statement.
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#82
RE: Baby born with anencephaly to please jesus?
(May 25, 2012 at 8:04 pm)Phil Wrote:
(May 25, 2012 at 8:00 pm)Annik Wrote: Can we agree that the brain is responsible for abstract thought and that thoughts are something we experience every second of the day?

Sure but you said our thoughts are about something. How so, they are only electrical impulses in neural circuits. Please explain your statement.

Well, I'm not sure exactly what you mean by your phrasing, but maybe this wiki page on cognition will explain what it is you're looking for.
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#83
RE: Baby born with anencephaly to please jesus?
(May 25, 2012 at 8:09 pm)Annik Wrote:
(May 25, 2012 at 8:04 pm)Phil Wrote: Sure but you said our thoughts are about something. How so, they are only electrical impulses in neural circuits. Please explain your statement.

Well, I'm not sure exactly what you mean by your phrasing, but maybe this wiki page on cognition will explain what it is you're looking for.

Cognition is not what I'm asking nor is it what you said. You specifically said our thoughts are about something, I asked how are they about something. What don't you understand?
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#84
RE: Baby born with anencephaly to please jesus?
Please quote the section you're referring to (or at least the post number), I'm just a touch confused as to what you're referencing.
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#85
RE: Baby born with anencephaly to please jesus?
(May 25, 2012 at 8:23 pm)Annik Wrote: Please quote the section you're referring to (or at least the post number), I'm just a touch confused as to what you're referencing.

Reread my first reply to you. You said our thoughts are about something. How?
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#86
RE: Baby born with anencephaly to please jesus?
(May 25, 2012 at 5:18 pm)Annik Wrote:
(May 25, 2012 at 5:01 pm)Phil Wrote: Even with a brain we are all bags of organs.
Bags of organs capable of contemplating the universe. Without our brains, we are truly nothing. And all the wonderful, thinking, yearning, learning parts of the brain... That child would not have.

(May 25, 2012 at 8:29 pm)Phil Wrote:
(May 25, 2012 at 8:23 pm)Annik Wrote: Please quote the section you're referring to (or at least the post number), I'm just a touch confused as to what you're referencing.

Reread my first reply to you. You said our thoughts are about something. How?

Are you referring to that post (just to be clear)?
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#87
RE: Baby born with anencephaly to please jesus?
(May 25, 2012 at 8:30 pm)Annik Wrote:
(May 25, 2012 at 5:18 pm)Annik Wrote: Bags of organs capable of contemplating the universe. Without our brains, we are truly nothing. And all the wonderful, thinking, yearning, learning parts of the brain... That child would not have.

(May 25, 2012 at 8:29 pm)Phil Wrote: Reread my first reply to you. You said our thoughts are about something. How?

Are you referring to that post (just to be clear)?

Er... Phil? You have definitely not got the upper-hand in this one. I haven't put up a "fatality" jpg up out of respect but if this doesn't wind down soon I'm going to have to out of sheer principle.
Just sayin'.
"That is not dead which can eternal lie and with strange aeons even death may die." 
- Abdul Alhazred.
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#88
RE: Baby born with anencephaly to please jesus?
(May 25, 2012 at 8:30 pm)Annik Wrote:
(May 25, 2012 at 5:18 pm)Annik Wrote: Bags of organs capable of contemplating the universe. Without our brains, we are truly nothing. And all the wonderful, thinking, yearning, learning parts of the brain... That child would not have.

(May 25, 2012 at 8:29 pm)Phil Wrote: Reread my first reply to you. You said our thoughts are about something. How?

Are you referring to that post (just to be clear)?

Are you playing a dumb game because you don't want to back up your statement? Answer the question or retract your statement that thoughts are about something.
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#89
RE: Baby born with anencephaly to please jesus?
(May 25, 2012 at 8:36 pm)Phil Wrote:
(May 25, 2012 at 8:30 pm)Annik Wrote: Are you referring to that post (just to be clear)?

Are you playing a dumb game because you don't want to back up your statement? Answer the question or retract your statement that thoughts are about something.

You're simply not making any sense, dude.

The point is, lacking the portion of the brain that provides higher cognitive functions, a person is not a person.
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#90
RE: Baby born with anencephaly to please jesus?
(May 25, 2012 at 8:36 pm)Phil Wrote:
(May 25, 2012 at 8:30 pm)Annik Wrote: Are you referring to that post (just to be clear)?

Are you playing a dumb game because you don't want to back up your statement? Answer the question or retract your statement that thoughts are about something.

Thoughts are about something Phil, yes they're made up of electrical impulses but these electrical impulses serve a purpose to carry and store information that makes us who we are. If the equipment to send, carry, or recieve these is damaged then little or no sense of self can be established.
Is this incorrect?
"That is not dead which can eternal lie and with strange aeons even death may die." 
- Abdul Alhazred.
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