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The harms of religion
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RE: The harms of religion
June 6, 2012 at 8:51 pm
Ok, so what is primary in consideration, age or consent?
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RE: The harms of religion
June 6, 2012 at 8:52 pm (This post was last modified: June 6, 2012 at 8:53 pm by Hovik.)
(June 6, 2012 at 8:51 pm)StatCrux Wrote: Ok, so what is primary in consideration, age or consent?

They. Are. Linked.

A 10-year-old is psychologically incapable of providing consent.
A 16-year-old is capable of providing consent.

You have to be at a certain level of cognitive development to be able to give consent.
What about this is so difficult for you to wrap your head around?
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RE: The harms of religion
June 6, 2012 at 8:54 pm
(June 6, 2012 at 8:52 pm)Hovik Wrote:
(June 6, 2012 at 8:51 pm)StatCrux Wrote: Ok, so what is primary in consideration, age or consent?

They. Are. Linked.

A 10-year-old is psychologically incapable of providing consent.
A 16-year-old is capable of providing consent.

You have to be at a certain level of cognitive development to be able to give consent.
What about this is so difficult for you to wrap your head around?

This.

I suggest you look into mental development in children to understand what we are talking about.
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RE: The harms of religion
June 6, 2012 at 8:56 pm (This post was last modified: June 6, 2012 at 8:58 pm by StatCrux.)
(June 6, 2012 at 8:45 pm)Annik Wrote:
(June 6, 2012 at 8:42 pm)StatCrux Wrote: So state clearly, consent overrides age?

As long as none of the parties will be hurt (Read: mentally and/or physically), they should be allowed. A 10 year-old in a sexual situation will have much different results than a 16 year-old.

Regardless of conversation, what, in your opinion is consensual age?
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#45
RE: The harms of religion
June 6, 2012 at 9:00 pm
(June 6, 2012 at 8:56 pm)StatCrux Wrote: Regardless of conversation, what, in your opinion is consensual age?

Are you seriously this dense or are you just not paying attention?

16!
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RE: The harms of religion
June 6, 2012 at 9:01 pm (This post was last modified: June 6, 2012 at 9:02 pm by Annik.)
(June 6, 2012 at 8:56 pm)StatCrux Wrote:
(June 6, 2012 at 8:45 pm)Annik Wrote: As long as none of the parties will be hurt (Read: mentally and/or physically), they should be allowed. A 10 year-old in a sexual situation will have much different results than a 16 year-old.

Regardless ofu opinion conversation, what, in your opinion is consensual age?

When an individual reaches the Formal Operational stage of development. This is when an individual will have informed insight into the implications of their actions. You're using strawman after strawman.

I'd say around 16 is safe to assume most have reached this stage.
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RE: The harms of religion
June 6, 2012 at 9:03 pm
(June 6, 2012 at 9:01 pm)Annik Wrote:
(June 6, 2012 at 8:56 pm)StatCrux Wrote: Regardless ofu opinion conversation, what, in your opinion is consensual age?

When an individual reaches the Formal Operational stage of development. This is when an individual will have informed insight into the implications of their actions. You're using strawman after strawman.

This. StatCrux, do you think this is all just conjecture? This is all based on known and established psychological research.
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RE: The harms of religion
June 6, 2012 at 9:03 pm
(June 6, 2012 at 8:52 pm)Hovik Wrote: A 10-year-old is psychologically incapable of providing consent.
A 16-year-old is capable of providing consent.

So essentially my argument that consent is not primary to age is correct.
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RE: The harms of religion
June 6, 2012 at 9:04 pm
(June 6, 2012 at 9:03 pm)StatCrux Wrote:
(June 6, 2012 at 8:52 pm)Hovik Wrote: A 10-year-old is psychologically incapable of providing consent.
A 16-year-old is capable of providing consent.

So essentially my argument that consent is not primary to age is correct.

What should consent be based on, then?
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RE: The harms of religion
June 6, 2012 at 9:07 pm
(June 6, 2012 at 9:04 pm)Annik Wrote:
(June 6, 2012 at 9:03 pm)StatCrux Wrote: So essentially my argument that consent is not primary to age is correct.

What should consent be based on, then?

Societal funcioning
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