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RE: A One In An infinity Chance That God Exists. What Do You Guys Think?
June 14, 2012 at 7:36 am
How can god be assigned a probability anyway? Assigning a probability to something that we have no evidence for or against is impossible. You either believe in it or not.
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RE: A One In An infinity Chance That God Exists. What Do You Guys Think?
June 14, 2012 at 7:59 am
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(June 13, 2012 at 11:02 pm)amateurlyinsightful Wrote: You cannot prove that god does not exist. Even Richard Dawkins says he believes in god as much as he believes in fairies in the grass
You cannot prove that pixies don't exist either, that don't mean they exist too.
Also just so we are clear, an atheist is someone who doesn't believe a god exists.
Dawkins said he believes in god as much as he believes in fairies, in other words - not at all. He's not saying that he believes in a god.
Just so we're clear on the matter.
Because I'm getting a slight impression you don't quite understand what atheism is.
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Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
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RE: A One In An infinity Chance That God Exists. What Do You Guys Think?
June 14, 2012 at 8:47 am
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(June 14, 2012 at 7:59 am)Ace Otana Wrote: (June 13, 2012 at 11:02 pm)amateurlyinsightful Wrote: You cannot prove that god does not exist. Even Richard Dawkins says he believes in god as much as he believes in fairies in the grass
You cannot prove that pixies don't exist either, that don't mean they exist too.
Also just so we are clear, an atheist is someone who doesn't believe a god exists.
Dawkins said he believes in god as much as he believes in fairies, in other words - not at all. He's not saying that he believes in a god.
Just so we're clear on the matter.
Because I'm getting a slight impression you don't quite understand what atheism is.
Atheism is a lack of belief in a deity. If you can't prove that god doesn't exist then how can someone take that claim as fact? You can't, therefore atheists just say they don't believe in god, not that he doesn't exist.
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RE: A One In An infinity Chance That God Exists. What Do You Guys Think?
June 14, 2012 at 9:27 am
That is not entirely correct. There is a distinction between "strong" and "weak" atheism.
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RE: A One In An infinity Chance That God Exists. What Do You Guys Think?
June 14, 2012 at 9:52 am
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(June 14, 2012 at 8:47 am)FallentoReason Wrote: Atheism is a lack of belief in a deity. If you can't prove that god doesn't exist then how can someone take that claim as fact? You can't, therefore atheists just say they don't believe in god, not that he doesn't exist.
I'm an agnostic atheist. Which means I'm not claiming anything. I've rejected the claim that a god exists. I've never claimed to know.
As, Epimethean stated. There is weak and strong atheism; agnostic atheism and gnostic atheism. Some do claim to know there is no god.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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RE: A One In An infinity Chance That God Exists. What Do You Guys Think?
June 14, 2012 at 9:57 am
Ace, you are our rebel without a cross.
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RE: A One In An infinity Chance That God Exists. What Do You Guys Think?
June 14, 2012 at 10:02 am
(June 14, 2012 at 9:52 am)Ace Otana Wrote: (June 14, 2012 at 8:47 am)FallentoReason Wrote: Atheism is a lack of belief in a deity. If you can't prove that god doesn't exist then how can someone take that claim as fact? You can't, therefore atheists just say they don't believe in god, not that he doesn't exist.
I'm an agnostic atheist. Which means I'm not claiming anything. I've rejected the claim that a god exists. I've never claimed to know.
As, Epimethean stated. There is weak and strong atheism; agnostic atheism and gnostic atheism. Some do claim to know there is no god.
Oh true, you guys are right. I forgot about the subdivision that is agnosticism and gnosticism.
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RE: A One In An infinity Chance That God Exists. What Do You Guys Think?
June 14, 2012 at 10:21 am
(June 14, 2012 at 9:57 am)Epimethean Wrote: Ace, you are our rebel without a cross.
Damn right.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
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RE: A One In An infinity Chance That God Exists. What Do You Guys Think?
June 14, 2012 at 10:41 am
(June 14, 2012 at 8:47 am)FallentoReason Wrote: (June 14, 2012 at 7:59 am)Ace Otana Wrote: You cannot prove that pixies don't exist either, that don't mean they exist too.
Also just so we are clear, an atheist is someone who doesn't believe a god exists.
Dawkins said he believes in god as much as he believes in fairies, in other words - not at all. He's not saying that he believes in a god.
Just so we're clear on the matter.
Because I'm getting a slight impression you don't quite understand what atheism is.
Atheism is a lack of belief in a deity. If you can't prove that god doesn't exist then how can someone take that claim as fact? You can't, therefore atheists just say they don't believe in god, not that he doesn't exist.
Atheists don't believe in fairy tales and superstitions. Your god-myth is just one of thousands of such superstitions that have come before it. Back of the line, bub.
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RE: A One In An infinity Chance That God Exists. What Do You Guys Think?
June 14, 2012 at 10:59 am
No. Athiests just don't believe in god. Athiests can still believe in bullshit. That just doesn't include god.
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