Faith Through Fear

[Reforged]

Please don't use capitals. Most of us aren't idiots.
Yes. Fear and demonization are weapons religion utilize on a regular basis.

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Good to have you here, now do you think you've brought anything new to the table, nope, we've heard this stuff many times and it does not fly. Just who does Christianity control and for what purpose would Christianity need to control and who would it benefit, can you answer these questions.

"Just who does Christianity control and for what purpose would Christianity need to control and who would it benefit, can you answer these questions."
What, you want names?
Example; If the pope holds a mass he has his flocks undivided attention and obediance. This is beneficial for him and his religion because he can gain influence, money and power through this.
Fairly simple concept, rather stupid question.

Also, "whos looking to extend their life" is an equally stupid question. Everyone is, including yourself.
If you don't think so let me ask you a question:
You believe you'll go to heaven if you die as long as you don't commit suicide, yes? Why don't you roam the streets of a particularly dangerous city at night to increase the likelyhood you'll get murdered and go to heaven?
Please think before you type in future to avoid boring the shit out of the rest of us.

[Minimalist]

Just who does Christianity control and for what purpose would Christianity need to control and who would it benefit, can you answer these questions.

Shitheads like you and it is a lucrative scam...probably one of the most lucrative in all of history.

You give them money and they give you bullshit. And YOU (figures) are happy with that deal!

[FallentoReason]

Isn't religion ultimately the byproduct of our ability to look up into the starry night sky?

[Minimalist]

No... it's the ability to look into a starry sky and be bullshitted by some asshole who also does not know what is out there.

People need to be less gullible.

[NoFate]

I wonder if 2000 years from now everyone will be belong to the church of scientology, I enjoy science fiction much more than the stolen works of Saul of Tarsus.

[Ace Otana]

Religion is the acknowledgement that as mortals there is unavoidable death no matter how hard we try to use nature to our benefit. Religion is also the response to this and 'ensures' there will always be a tomorrow for eternity, effectively avoiding death altogether.

Actually I thought common knowledge was acknowledgement that death is unavoidable. Religion just offers a reassuring lie, it cannot in any way change reality. If there is no continued existence after death, then that's that. Regardless of any promises made.

Thing is, everything always comes back to death when it comes to religion. Which highlights the fear of death. The only way to continue living is through technology, religion cannot help, it only offers lies to give comfort. That's it.

[Brian37]

"Fear is the greatest power known to man, and fear is what religion is based on. It is the perfect means of control"

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If you can convince the public that they have something or someone to fear then by doing that you can also make them act in a way or take certain actions that they would otherwise not do. Once you have made them believe that you have the answer or that they are safe in your hands then you now have been given all the power. For now that they are convinced and a have a firm belief in whatever your selling them you now can slowly begin to manipulate them in anyway you perceive. This has happened time and time again, and I am reminded of this famous quote “Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.” - George Santayana. There are many examples of this that come to mind all through our history, one of the most recent and infamous is that of Adolf Hitler and the Holocaust. He convinced a whole country that Jews were to blame for all their problems. One man was able to rise to power and over time manipulate his country into the killing of approximately six million Jews and because of that will never be forgotten and has a permanent place in our history books. Now don’t you think if only one man can have such an effect then many man could come up with stories (Jesus, Allah, Krishna, Muhammad ,etc.) about a great and wise man or woman who once lived and performed great miracles and if you blindly believe in this person and do what they say you will live forever in a perfect place but if you don’t believe in this person that has no shred of evidence off ever actually existing that you will be forever tormented in the depth of a burning hell but this person steal loves you. Young Muslims are so convinced and blindly believe that they will crash into a building or blow themselves up in the name of Allah and then expect to have a certain amount of virgins waiting on them when they get to heaven. The Christians will laugh and make fun of this not realizing that they are just as fooled. Christianly has been controlling people since it was thought up. I mean at one time and for a long period of time the pope was the most powerful position in the world. If you think Christians have always been so righteous, then do a little reading on the crusades. The bottom line is man cannot except their own mortality and will continue to make up stories and beliefs to make them feel like they will never die.

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Good to have you here, now do you think you've brought anything new to the table, nope, we've heard this stuff many times and it does not fly. Just who does Christianity control and for what purpose would Christianity need to control and who would it benefit, can you answer these questions.
Next, who is it looking to extend life, who is it that wants to see life extended, those who are afraid to die and it's not Christians. Christians have a future after bodily death, those who do not know God through Christ have no real future after bodily death. So with this reasoning it must be the unbeliever who wants life extended and if I'm not mistaken it is the unbelievers who are trying to extend life through chemicals, diet, or whatever. So go out there and work your butts off with exercise, eat your peanuts and veggies, pop your pills it could extend your life a couple years, in the end you will be worm food like the rest of us, that is until the second resurrection.

You falsely think you chose to believe. If no one had introduced you to Christianity there would be any bribe or threat to keep you in it. We are not talking about human politics here. We are talking about the emotional blackmail religion is, which gets projected on politics.

But as a mere concept, it forgoes questioning and relies on the bribe of heaven and the threat of hell. Like an abusive spouse who promises the wife a ring if she stays but threatens her with a beating if she tries to leave.

Emotional blackmail in the form of bribes or threats is hardly moral and hardly a choice.

Robber, "I'll give you two choices. Give me your wallet and I'll let you live. Keep your wallet and I'll shoot you dead". Please explain to me how that can be a choice?

You have no choice, you have fallen for the utopia bribe of a fictional heaven under threats of hell. You'll give up reason first before you question this blackmail.

[Faith No More]

Next, who is it looking to extend life, who is it that wants to see life extended, those who are afraid to die and it's not Christians. Christians have a future after bodily death, those who do not know God through Christ have no real future after bodily death. So with this reasoning it must be the unbeliever who wants life extended and if I'm not mistaken it is the unbelievers who are trying to extend life through chemicals, diet, or whatever. So go out there and work your butts off with exercise, eat your peanuts and veggies, pop your pills it could extend your life a couple years, in the end you will be worm food like the rest of us, that is until the second resurrection.

The point is that the religious deal with their own mortality by believing that their souls will exist for eternity after their death. You may not be trying to extend this life, but you are trying to extend yourself as an entity to eternity. We, however, eat, jog, and pop pills for an extra couple of years, because we understand that those are all you're going to get.

[KichigaiNeko]

Stating the obvious much?

[Zen Badger]

Good to have you here, now do you think you've brought anything new to the table, nope, we've heard this stuff many times and it does not fly. Just who does Christianity control and for what purpose would Christianity need to control and who would it benefit, can you answer these questions.
Next, who is it looking to extend life, who is it that wants to see life extended, those who are afraid to die and it's not Christians. Christians have a future after bodily death, those who do not know God through Christ have no real future after bodily death. So with this reasoning it must be the unbeliever who wants life extended and if I'm not mistaken it is the unbelievers who are trying to extend life through chemicals, diet, or whatever. So go out there and work your butts off with exercise, eat your peanuts and veggies, pop your pills it could extend your life a couple years, in the end you will be worm food like the rest of us, that is until the second resurrection.

No, You think you have a future after physical death.
You have no proof that this is the case.

As for life extending practices?

I ride fast motorbikes, I don't fear death. When it comes it comes.

I fear eternity much more, especially if it is a mind destroying eternity of constantly praising god.