Uncovering the Markan Allegory II

[FallentoReason]

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Because Drich, I'm not going to be someone that states Christianity is false because, in a nutshell, ends don't meet. The matter of the fact is that we have these manuscripts that have been left behind which make certain claims. My aim is to go one further than just saying 'the Bible doesn't stand on its own two feet'. My aim is to demonstrate and explain why such claims have been made. I want to explain what they really believed and what actually happened that led to us having these manuscripts. I want for you to meet your maker. Faith is for the foolish. Without evidence, I wouldn't have posted this.

But that's just it. YOU haven't done any of these things not even once. You copy and paste the flawed works of others and compile them together under your own titles. To which you make a superfical effort support them when properly challenged. However in the end you complations fail to hold up to serious scrutiny. Which is why I've asked what is the point?

You asked us why we continue to believe when the 'evidence' does not support our assertions? I'd like to now ask you the same question. No matter how you'd like to think you'd answer this question, the truth of the matter boils down to your own personal faith in what you believe. You have the same faith in what you believe, as the Christian has in what he believes. Which is what God judges. Your Faith, and where you place it.

So tell yourself what you like, but know deep down the reason you keep returning to this well, the reason you beat this dead horse is because you feel you need to justify your faith, the only way you know how. Which fails and will fail every single time. Why? Because you are basing your efforts in the works, and the faiths of the 'others' that have inspired those works. Meaning you are placing your faith in 'facts' that people have fudged to make thier justifications/beliefs work. You like them are building only one side of the equasion, and you do not put the effort into researching the other side. What truth can be fond in only looking for what you want to find? This is not a research for truth, this is the efforts for a justification of Faith.

Dismantle my 'faith' then. Why did Mark use Paul's teachings as what 'Jesus' would be saying?

[Drich]

Dismantle my 'faith' then. Why did Mark use Paul's teachings as what 'Jesus' would be saying?

We've argued this already.. what new evidence do you think you have? Whatever it is, it can be shot down, (If it hasn't already been) and then you will wait a month or two and find something else and try again and again until you can satasify your faith.. Why not simply do the research yourself and cut out the middle man (Me)?

Is my ablity or inablity to condemn an arguement really the cornerstone of your faith? Again, why not do your own work, or admit your own faith, and move on? Because know simply argueing something Ad nausim is not proving anything. It is a legitmate logical fallacy. Just because people tired of argueing the same headline arguement with you, does not mean you have found indisputable facts. It just means people are tired of the arguement. Again after the 3rd or 4th one of these threads (each one 5 to 10 pages long or more!) one of these in as many months I can honestly say you have not brought anything new to the table, just a different source.

Ever wonder why there are so many sources that you can quote that all say the same thing? Maybe it's because none of the arguements you have chosen can destroy the works of the gospels as completely as you need them to so your heart can accept what you have been argueing.

Which brings us back to what you are actually doing with these threads. You are argueing Faith. To Which I have said many many times to you and your peers. I am not here to argue your faiths. God has given us all a choice to make (on Faith Eitherway) So who am I to say you made the wrong one? My job is only to point to the choice itself, If this is your choice then it is fine by me. Just know what it is, and how you made that choice. Don't dress it up as anything else. "To thy own self be true." That way you can always return Home as the prodigal son did when he was ready. Otherwise if your burn that bridge in your mind, your only escape is death. Which ironically....

[FallentoReason]

The evidence shows a strong correlation between Mark and the OT + epistles. As I have said many times, these parallels aren't to do with 'prophecy fulfilled' verses but instead trivial events. It's there in black and white Drich. There's no 'faith' required to see what 'Mark' was up to.

Why does Peter's testimony (Gospel of Mark) sound like recycled OT verses and epistle teaching?

[Drich]

The evidence shows a strong correlation between Mark and the OT + epistles. As I have said many times, these parallels aren't to do with 'prophecy fulfilled' verses but instead trivial events. It's there in black and white Drich. There's no 'faith' required to see what 'Mark' was up to.

Why does Peter's testimony (Gospel of Mark) sound like recycled OT verses and epistle teaching?

[FallentoReason]

Meeting your maker hurts, I know.