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Must all be proven?
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H0ary H0bbit Religious Views: “Never to suffer would never to have been blessed.” - Edgar Allan Poe RE: Must all be proven?
October 6, 2009 at 8:11 pm
(This post was last modified: October 6, 2009 at 8:12 pm by fr0d0.)
Theists can only be grouped as those who believe in a religion god. Personal beliefs of theists vary greatly, and there is no common belief shared by theists. Atheism is not a theory, as there is no supporting evidence. Atheism is just hypothesis.
(just having a little fun  )
An athiest can believe in god, but athiests do not worship any gods[religion]. If they proved
god[christianity] existed, that would not automatically make everyone be a christian, as alot of people would choose not to worship.
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
"Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys" - P.J. O'Rourke "Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't." - Margaret Thatcher "Nothing succeeds like the appearance of success." - Christopher Lasch
H0ary H0bbit Religious Views: “Never to suffer would never to have been blessed.” - Edgar Allan Poe RE: Must all be proven?
October 6, 2009 at 8:27 pm
(This post was last modified: October 6, 2009 at 8:41 pm by fr0d0.)
That's nonsense TBF. Atheism gk 'atheos'= without gods.
Wikipedia Wrote:Atheism can be either the rejection of theism, or the position that deities do not exist. In the broadest sense, it is the absence of belief in the existence of deities. Proving God exists is logically impossible. Given knowledge of God most people choose not to believe. An atheist can be a Buddhist, and therefore be religious. To worship requires belief
I am very aware god cannot be proven, thats why I am an athiest. But if got came for a visit, that would count as proof would it not? There are many that would not worship god if they knew for sure god existed. having proof of gods existance, and not believing god exists is just as illogical as believing god exists with the current lack of proof. Believing god exists is a requirement of worship to that god, however worship of that god is not required to believe that god exists.
Athiesm is used here and commonly in society as meaning 'not practicing or believing in any religion'. if an entire society consistently misuses the word in the same manner, that words definition is effectivly changed. There are some (I am not one) that do not consider budhism a religion, or as still a part of hinduism for that very reason.
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
"Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys" - P.J. O'Rourke "Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't." - Margaret Thatcher "Nothing succeeds like the appearance of success." - Christopher Lasch  RE: Must all be proven?
October 7, 2009 at 2:03 am
(This post was last modified: October 7, 2009 at 2:03 am by Retorth.)
zoso Wrote:If evolution is true why is there no ape/man in existance today. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/1055105.stm http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnew...found.html zoso Wrote:evolution holds no great proof. Its still a theory as religion is. See above links. zoso Wrote:If evolution was proven there would no longer be religion Even if evolution could be handed to you on a silver platter, there will still be religion. P.S I apologize for the short replies. I'm in a rush out of the house. Will reply properly later on.  Cheers!
The dark side awaits YOU...AngryAtheism
"Only the dead have seen the end of war..." - Plato “Those who wish to base their morality literally on the Bible have either not read it or not understood it...” - Richard Dawkins 
The shorter the reply... the less likely that it is miscommunicated
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
That depends, it could also create a miscommunication through lack of clarity.
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
"Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys" - P.J. O'Rourke "Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't." - Margaret Thatcher "Nothing succeeds like the appearance of success." - Christopher Lasch
True that. The infamous "Yes/No" miscommunication comes to mind
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
H0ary H0bbit Religious Views: “Never to suffer would never to have been blessed.” - Edgar Allan Poe (October 6, 2009 at 8:48 pm)theblindferrengi Wrote: I am very aware god cannot be proven, thats why I am an athiest.How silly then LOL (To qualify, God can just not be proven scientifically) (October 6, 2009 at 8:48 pm)theblindferrengi Wrote: But if got came for a visit, that would count as proof would it not? No. He already did & that didn't. (October 6, 2009 at 8:48 pm)theblindferrengi Wrote: There are many that would not worship god if they knew for sure god existed. having proof of gods existance, and not believing god exists is just as illogical as believing god exists with the current lack of proof. Yes but that doesn't address the atheist stance that there is no god. If God were known to exist it wouldn't be God. The Christian belief in God requires faith and specifically not verifiable proof. The devil believes in God but is anti God. (October 6, 2009 at 8:48 pm)theblindferrengi Wrote: Believing god exists is a requirement of worship to that god, however worship of that god is not required to believe that god exists. Indeed. (October 6, 2009 at 8:48 pm)theblindferrengi Wrote: Athiesm is used here and commonly in society as meaning 'not practicing or believing in any religion'. if an entire society consistently misuses the word in the same manner, that words definition is effectivly changed. There are some (I am not one) that do not consider budhism a religion, or as still a part of hinduism for that very reason. Surely you can never get away with such blatant opposition to such a literal term - a-theism - without-theism or theism=belief-in-a-deity RE: Must all be proven?
October 7, 2009 at 11:42 am
(This post was last modified: October 7, 2009 at 11:43 am by Retorth.)
fr0d0 Wrote:Proving God exists is logically impossible. Interesting.. zoso Wrote:We see neat patterns and believe thats what happened but does it always work like that? Can you please define what you mean by "neat patterns", just so I don't misunderstand. Thanks. zoso Wrote:evolution holds no great proof. Its still a theory as religion is. Science has explained a lot about our past in a way that is clear and concise. I think these websites can help you understand how certain facts of evolution are explained: http://anthro.palomar.edu/evolve/evolve_3.htm http://bioweb.cs.earlham.edu/9-12/evolut.../live.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evidence_of_common_descent
The dark side awaits YOU...AngryAtheism
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