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Movies That Should Have Been Epic
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 (December 26, 2012 at 5:39 pm)The_Germans_are_coming Wrote: Watchmen. I watched it, but, really, it's about as faithful an adaptation of the graphic novel as we're likely to get.
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I remember watching the Matrix and loving it for being revolutionary but since that revolutionary appeal has died, I find myself enjoying it much less nowadays.
Brave. Seriously, Pixar, what the hell? Cars, Cars 2, Brave? What the fuck?? Cars was boring, Cars 2 was fucking SHIT, and Brave...ok Brave wasn't bad, and it had some good moments, but...I was led to believe it was going to be dark, wrapped in myth and legend with action throughout surrounding a young-but-stalwart heroine and...yeah, I didn't really get that. I mean, the last 1/3 of the movie was pretty damn good, and there were some good setups and ideas there but... I dunno. I heard the film went through several directors and writers, and as we all know, nothing where writers cycle in and out of a story EVER works out right at all.  (December 26, 2012 at 5:39 pm)The_Germans_are_coming Wrote: Watchmen.What didn't you like about it? I loved the film. I hadn't read the comic before, but the film got me interested in them. I actually prefer the ending of the film to the one in the comic. Makes more sense to me to have Dr Manhattan blamed than for some fake alien invasion. 
I liked watchmen, it was a true, almost word for word adaption of the comic book series (I HATE the term graphic novel, all because of the goddamn Pulitzer Prize) except for the inter dimensional squid like monsters in the comic.
The best comic book based movie ever.  RE: Movies That Should Have Been Epic
December 27, 2012 at 1:24 am
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(December 26, 2012 at 6:26 pm)Annik Wrote:(December 26, 2012 at 5:39 pm)The_Germans_are_coming Wrote: Watchmen. Um...except for the ending, it was about as faithful to the comic as it could get. What did they change that you didn't like? (December 26, 2012 at 10:49 pm)Tiberius Wrote: ! At first I was disappointed about the ending change, but after relaying those sentiments to a friend, he was able to convince me that it was an improvement. Considering all of the crap people had to go through to get this movie made(Alan Moore, the writer of the comic, did not want a movie to get made, and eventually refused to take a dime in profits from it) and the tone and feel of the comic not being condusive to an easy film adaptation, I thought Zack Snyder did a damn fine job. In fact, I've liked it more each time I've watched it.
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It's a bit more involved than just Alan Moore didn't want to have anything to do with it.
After the utter travesty that was league of Extrodinary gentlemen, he was finished with any adaptations of his works. He didn't try to stop watchmen from being made, he just wanted nothing to do with it, giving Dave gibbons (the artist of the book for those that don't read comics) full ownership of the movie rights. Just as he did with the artist for V for vendetta. Alan Moore is a bit of a recluse, as in Howard Hughes level of recluse. But one of the greatest pure anarchic writers of all time. He just hates the business now, both movie and comics, especially DC comics now they fucked him on the whole before watchmen (which the print rights to the book were going to revert back to Moore and gibbons if DC didn't print new stories featuring the characters).
I was under the impression that they were trying to make the movie, which Moore was against from the beginning, long before "The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen" came out.
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December 27, 2012 at 2:10 am
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I'm not really familiar with Mr Moore's oeuvre, but it seems to me that all too often the creator of some cherished work might be the least placed to appreciate its potential. We need look no further than George Lucas once he actually got his unfettered hands on Star Wars, or what it might have been like if Gene Roddenberry didn't have Gene Coon to come up with everything people know about Star Trek.
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December 27, 2012 at 2:39 am
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Mystic River, also, any Michael Crichton title.........so many shit movies have been churned out of the mill of perfectly serviceable books....Timeline...13th Warrior.....Jurassic Fucking Park....goddamnit..the worst of all of em, Congo - though I suppose Sphere was alright.
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Y'know, I'll be entirely honest here, I have always found Alan Moore's writing to be detestably cynical about everything. I prefer the movie adaptations to the source material a lot more. V For Vendetta as a comic was good but it wasn't anything mind-blowing. V For Vendetta as a movie WAS mind-blowing.
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