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RE: If homosexuality were preventable should it be prevented?
March 3, 2013 at 10:47 am
(March 3, 2013 at 10:01 am)mo66 Wrote: Did I call for the killing of homosexuals? No. That's a vile thing to say and to be honest, I haven't been posting on this forum very long and you're not a good advert for civil debates. Sort yourself out.
You called HIV infection amongst gay men "repulsive." This is a disease that is literally killing people, and your only response isn't one of empathy, but one of smug self righteousness. That is a problem.
I also find it hilarious that the person who posted a single sentence inflammatory statement that was top to bottom bigotry has the audacity to call me out over "civil debates." Have you no self awareness?
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RE: If homosexuality were preventable should it be prevented?
March 3, 2013 at 11:16 am
(March 3, 2013 at 10:47 am)Esquilax Wrote: (March 3, 2013 at 10:01 am)mo66 Wrote: Did I call for the killing of homosexuals? No. That's a vile thing to say and to be honest, I haven't been posting on this forum very long and you're not a good advert for civil debates. Sort yourself out.
You called HIV infection amongst gay men "repulsive." This is a disease that is literally killing people, and your only response isn't one of empathy, but one of smug self righteousness. That is a problem.
I also find it hilarious that the person who posted a single sentence inflammatory statement that was top to bottom bigotry has the audacity to call me out over "civil debates." Have you no self awareness? It is repulsive. Yes. I'm not the problem, HIV is the problem. Anus penetration is the problem. I don't like to see people die, it's vile to continue to ignore this. You cannot sweep these diseases under the carpet. If you don't like helping gays, that's your problem, not mine.
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RE: If homosexuality were preventable should it be prevented?
March 3, 2013 at 11:40 am
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Is now a good time to point out how people living in sub-Saharan Africa, one of the most homophobic regions in the entire world, suffer most brutally from HIV and AIDS?
You can catch these diseases from any kind of sexual activity. If you actually cared, you'd advocate safe sex practices and easy access to protection.
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RE: If homosexuality were preventable should it be prevented?
March 3, 2013 at 11:41 am
(March 3, 2013 at 11:16 am)mo66 Wrote: It is repulsive. Yes. I'm not the problem, HIV is the problem. Anus penetration is the problem. I don't like to see people die, it's vile to continue to ignore this. You cannot sweep these diseases under the carpet. If you don't like helping gays, that's your problem, not mine.
Oh, so your problem is with HIV, then? And anal sex? Well, to each his own on the sex score, I guess.
I'm just glad you don't have a problem with homosexuality. Bigotry is bad, after all.
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RE: If homosexuality were preventable should it be prevented?
March 3, 2013 at 12:10 pm
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(March 3, 2013 at 9:35 am)Aractus Wrote: Mr Question - I never said that engrained sexuality doesn't exist....
To be fair to you, that aspect of my previous comment was aimed at A Theist.
(March 3, 2013 at 9:36 am)mo66 Wrote: What's repulsive is the damage done to the anus through repeated penetration and the out of control HIV rates amongst gay men.
And what's repulsive about cigarettes is the yellowing of the hard, the physical annihilation of the lungs, the cancer, the yellow teeth, the bad breath, the general lax in physical fitness stemming from decreased oxygenation in the body.
Is it up to you to tell other people what they can do with their bodies?
(March 3, 2013 at 11:16 am)mo66 Wrote: It is repulsive. Yes. I'm not the problem, HIV is the problem. Anus penetration is the problem. I don't like to see people die, it's vile to continue to ignore this. You cannot sweep these diseases under the carpet. If you don't like helping gays, that's your problem, not mine.
Are you actually under the impression that if people stopped being gay, people would stop performing anal sex? Every single position performed by gay people is performed by heterosexual people somewhere.
For some reason that fact is often conveniently unmentioned.
If you believe it, question it. If you question it, get an answer. If you have an answer, does that answer satisfy reality? Does it satisfy you? Probably not. For no one else will agree with you, not really.
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RE: If homosexuality were preventable should it be prevented?
March 3, 2013 at 12:54 pm
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(March 3, 2013 at 12:10 pm)Question Mark Wrote: (March 3, 2013 at 9:35 am)Aractus Wrote: Mr Question - I never said that engrained sexuality doesn't exist....
To be fair to you, that aspect of my previous comment was aimed at A Theist.
(March 3, 2013 at 9:36 am)mo66 Wrote: What's repulsive is the damage done to the anus through repeated penetration and the out of control HIV rates amongst gay men.
And what's repulsive about cigarettes is the yellowing of the hard, the physical annihilation of the lungs, the cancer, the yellow teeth, the bad breath, the general lax in physical fitness stemming from decreased oxygenation in the body.
Is it up to you to tell other people what they can do with their bodies?
(March 3, 2013 at 11:16 am)mo66 Wrote: It is repulsive. Yes. I'm not the problem, HIV is the problem. Anus penetration is the problem. I don't like to see people die, it's vile to continue to ignore this. You cannot sweep these diseases under the carpet. If you don't like helping gays, that's your problem, not mine.
Are you actually under the impression that if people stopped being gay, people would stop performing anal sex? Every single position performed by gay people is performed by heterosexual people somewhere.
For some reason that fact is often conveniently unmentioned. Yes, of course, I can have an opinion on what people should or shouldn't do with their bodies. For example: People shouldn't do drugs, people shouldn't have gay sex.
Did I say that gay people are the only ones who sodomize? No. It's called building a strawman. This thread is specifically about homosexuality.
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RE: If homosexuality were preventable should it be prevented?
March 3, 2013 at 12:59 pm
(March 3, 2013 at 12:54 pm)mo66 Wrote: Yes, of course, I can have an opinion on what people should or shouldn't do with their bodies. For example: People shouldn't do drugs, people shouldn't have gay sex.
Did I say that gay people are the only ones who sodomize? No. It's called building a strawman. This thread is specifically about homosexuality.
And if you want your opinions to carry any weight you have to justify them.
Answer the questions. I'm hankering for a new argument to tear into, over here.
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RE: If homosexuality were preventable should it be prevented?
March 3, 2013 at 1:00 pm
(March 3, 2013 at 12:54 pm)mo66 Wrote: Yes, of course, I can have an opinion on what people should or shouldn't do with their bodies. For example: People shouldn't do drugs, people shouldn't have gay sex.
Did I say that gay people are the only ones who sodomize? No. It's called building a strawman. This thread is specifically about homosexuality.
Oh, but it isn't a strawma though. You're using the appeal to emotion over the icky prospect of other people performing sodomy, and using that to persecute a single group, where as you'll dismiss the fact that heterosexuals doing it to further your condemnation of that single group.
That's not a strawman, that's what you're doing, and it's hypocrisy.
Yes, you can have your opinion, I would gladly stand up for your right to voice your opinion, but should you have the right to support laws that destroy other people's freedoms based on those opinions? No, just no. The mere fact that people do that is disgusting, because they would throw a hissy fit if someone did it to them
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RE: If homosexuality were preventable should it be prevented?
March 3, 2013 at 1:06 pm
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(March 3, 2013 at 1:00 pm)Question Mark Wrote: (March 3, 2013 at 12:54 pm)mo66 Wrote: Yes, of course, I can have an opinion on what people should or shouldn't do with their bodies. For example: People shouldn't do drugs, people shouldn't have gay sex.
Did I say that gay people are the only ones who sodomize? No. It's called building a strawman. This thread is specifically about homosexuality.
Oh, but it isn't a strawma though. You're using the appeal to emotion over the icky prospect of other people performing sodomy, and using that to persecute a single group, where as you'll dismiss the fact that heterosexuals doing it to further your condemnation of that single group.
That's not a strawman, that's what you're doing, and it's hypocrisy.
Yes, you can have your opinion, I would gladly stand up for your right to voice your opinion, but should you have the right to support laws that destroy other people's freedoms based on those opinions? No, just no. The mere fact that people do that is disgusting, because they would throw a hissy fit if someone did it to them It's called a STRAWMAN. You're arguing against a proposition that I didn't make. I didn't say only gay people sodomize, and yet you felt the need to argue that.
I oppose gay sex, whether you like it or not. I frankly don't care what you think about my opinions. Especially since you have nothing of value to argue with.
" but should you have the right to support laws that destroy other people's freedoms based on those opinions? No, just no"
Where did I support such laws? It's STRAWMAN after STRAWMAN! The debating here is absolutely appalling.
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RE: If homosexuality were preventable should it be prevented?
March 3, 2013 at 1:17 pm
(March 3, 2013 at 1:06 pm)mo66 Wrote: (March 3, 2013 at 1:00 pm)Question Mark Wrote: Oh, but it isn't a strawma though. You're using the appeal to emotion over the icky prospect of other people performing sodomy, and using that to persecute a single group, where as you'll dismiss the fact that heterosexuals doing it to further your condemnation of that single group.
That's not a strawman, that's what you're doing, and it's hypocrisy.
Yes, you can have your opinion, I would gladly stand up for your right to voice your opinion, but should you have the right to support laws that destroy other people's freedoms based on those opinions? No, just no. The mere fact that people do that is disgusting, because they would throw a hissy fit if someone did it to them It's called a STRAWMAN. You're arguing against a proposition that I didn't make. I didn't say only gay people sodomize, and yet you felt the need to argue that.
I oppose gay sex, whether you like it or not. I frankly don't care what you think about my opinions. Especially since you have nothing of value to argue with.
Not it isn't a STRAWMAN, captain capslock, because you're using the fact that a lot of gay men sodomize to persecute them, without persecuting hetereosexuals. Do you deny that you're only having a go at homosexuals for doing this?
If you included heteros, then I would be misunderstanding what you're saying, which might not happen if instead of crying strawman, you simply explained yourself.
I don't have an argument to put to you, because you haven't presented an argument, which is very odd on a forum. All you've done is say that it's icky, which is not an argument for anything.
If you don't want to argue a point, then it beggars belief why you're even here.
If you believe it, question it. If you question it, get an answer. If you have an answer, does that answer satisfy reality? Does it satisfy you? Probably not. For no one else will agree with you, not really.
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