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RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?'
March 21, 2013 at 11:19 am
(March 13, 2013 at 2:13 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: (February 6, 2013 at 10:20 am)TaraJo Wrote: So, let's suppose we could go back and get samples from different time periods and clone babies from all along the evolutionary tree from apes to modern humans; where would we draw the line between beast and man? NEVER
Because we were not Animal at any time
Evolution is a big Hoax
So, thousands of scientists, hundreds of acumulative years of study, millions of pieces of empiical evidence to produce a theory is not acceptable to you but one book written by one man making absolute statements about the existance of a God with no evidence is acceptable?
Interesting.
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RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?'
March 21, 2013 at 1:46 pm
(March 13, 2013 at 2:13 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: (February 6, 2013 at 10:20 am)TaraJo Wrote: So, let's suppose we could go back and get samples from different time periods and clone babies from all along the evolutionary tree from apes to modern humans; where would we draw the line between beast and man? NEVER
Because we were not Animal at any time
Evolution is a big Hoax
Simplistic answers deserve simple responses.
You're an idiot.
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RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?'
March 21, 2013 at 6:13 pm
Per the OP I generally cross the line between person and animal midway through my 4th drink. But then I was always a lightweight when it came to alcohol.
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RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?'
March 21, 2013 at 6:43 pm
(March 13, 2013 at 2:13 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: (February 6, 2013 at 10:20 am)TaraJo Wrote: So, let's suppose we could go back and get samples from different time periods and clone babies from all along the evolutionary tree from apes to modern humans; where would we draw the line between beast and man? NEVER
Because we were not Animal at any time
Evolution is a big Hoax
"Scholar'...
I don't think that word means what you think it means.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?'
March 21, 2013 at 6:51 pm
(March 20, 2013 at 6:06 pm)futilethewinds Wrote: (March 13, 2013 at 2:13 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: NEVER
Because we were not Animal at any time
Evolution is a big Hoax  Whoever laughs last laughs hardest.
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RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?'
March 21, 2013 at 7:34 pm
Doesn't human = moralistic = selfless = acts in a way contrary to the proliferation of the species?
*sips more coffee*
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RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?'
March 21, 2013 at 8:01 pm
(March 21, 2013 at 7:34 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Doesn't human = moralistic = selfless = acts in a way contrary to the proliferation of the species?
*sips more coffee*
No.
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RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?'
March 22, 2013 at 11:06 am
The first the capacity to learn. If one cannot learn, how can it be sentient? The second is the capacity to reason. A dumb animal cannot reason, setting it apart from those that can reason between the choices provided it. And the third principle is the ability to self-sacrifice. If one can override the rules of fight and flight to sacrifice themselves for a cause, a friend, a loved one, that is in itself the highest form of sentient life.
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RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?'
March 22, 2013 at 1:26 pm
I think atheists just make up differences between people and animals and there are many different ways to do this because no one has any definitive proof according to the atheist standards that people are different from animals.
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RE: When do we cross the line from 'animal' to 'person?'
March 22, 2013 at 1:55 pm
(March 22, 2013 at 1:26 pm)jstrodel Wrote: I think atheists just make up differences between people and animals and there are many different ways to do this because no one has any definitive proof according to the atheist standards that people are different from animals.
I think the shoe is more often on the other foot. Unless you believe in something like creation, why would you doubt man is a mammal? Atheists have no problem with that. It is more often Christians who have had a problem with that designation since their taxonomy more often goes: A) creatures created in god's image -vs- B) all other creatures.
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