A Show of Gay Pride

[Psykhronic]

Have you ever been to a gay pride parade? I think they demonstrate that every time but whatever.

A gay pride parade can't possibly demonstrate that the participants have never and will never, no matter what the circumstances, have a fleeting positive sexual thought regarding the opposite sex.

That was mostly a joke. And good lord, a "fleeting" positive sexual thought is enough to be bisexual? Yeah, okay. A friend of mine is gay and likes women's asses. Is he bisexual because of that - even though he is otherwise disgusted with the idea of getting sexually close to a female form?

[Silver]

A friend of mine is gay and likes women's asses. Is he bisexual because of that - even though he is otherwise disgusted with the idea of getting sexually close to a female form?

He simply has an admiration for the beauty of the female ass, which I do not find beautiful at all. The only part of a woman I find remotely beautiful is her face. It is easy enough to have platonic admiration for someone.

[Psykhronic]

Yes, that's what I think as well. It seems pretty evident that he can only have satisfying sexual relationships with males.

[John V]

Have you ever had any fleeting positive thoughts about members of the same sex?

Sure.

Thought about a little oral, for example? Anal?

No, aural and nasal. Now spare us your immaturity and let the grown-ups talk.

[The Grand Nudger]

Love a frank conversation. Where, along the continuum, would your experience place you? Do you think we might be able to find someone on the forums (or elsewhere) who has not had such an experience - perhaps for sake of scope someone advanced in age to the point where their experience thusfar would be broadly indicative of whatever experiences they may have left in front of them (hasn't dreamt of penis yet, doesn't expect to start tomorrow, only has so many tommorrows left - sort of thing)? Where would that place them?

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I do have to express some confusion as to why "maybe they will one day dream of -insert naughty bits here-" is even entering into this, or has some value to modify the situation. Which is, in essence, what you refered to earlier. Only pointing to my experience, clearly, but my wife is pretty thoroughly repulsed by the female body in the sexual sense (often even her own). She doesn't express the sort of visceral pleasure I get from staring between her legs. I really can't say that I doubt her firm stance on the subject, and her utter lack of having ever experienced any sexual attraction to a female. At this point, I;m not holding out any hope that she might one day - even for a moment- imagine sexing up another woman in a positive way - let alone find her with her nose halfway up some girls ass on a sunday.

I mean.....the objection you raised...it's pretty shaky John. I appreciate that you've thought about it, that your experience seems to be different than my wifes....but even in this tiny focus group - two very different stories are being told. Know what I mean?

"grown-ups" by the way, can handle a little vulgarity - at least where I come from. My vulgarity doesn't detract from my point (and I do try to keep my vulgarity firmly on-point), but I do understand that it gives you something else to focus on. Ignore it if it bothers you.

[John V]

That was mostly a joke.

So come up with something solid.

And good lord, a "fleeting" positive sexual thought is enough to be bisexual?

How much attraction is enough? The fact that you phrase it that way indicates that you see a continuum, but make arbitrary cutoff points to break it into three buckets.

[Psykhronic]

Enough attraction to be willing to act on it. That is not arbitrary. And no, i dont think there is just three options here. For example, I would totally have sex with a female but I get far more attraction to men and cannot, as far as I know - fair, fall in love with a female. I do not classify myself as bisexual.

EDIT: To clarify, I am not saying enough attraction to be willing to act on it automatically equates to bisexuality, but it is necessary. Whether or not a person actually acts on it is another story.

[John V]

Enough attraction to be willing to act on it. That is not arbitrary. And no, i dont think there is just three options here. For example, I would totally have sex with a female but I get far more attraction to men and cannot, as far as I know - fair, fall in love with a female. I do not classify myself as bisexual.

You contradict yourself in the space of a couple of sentences. You seem to need to rethink this.

[Psykhronic]

I would have sex with a female for the fuck of it. Not because I am sexually attracted to females (I am not - thus the whole "far more attraction to men"). There is no contradiction. And I cannot have passionate loving relationships with females either. Sorry if this confuses you. You seem to want everyone to fit under one brush.

[The Grand Nudger]

What contradiction would that be John. Didn't you just chide Psy for imposing his/her own classifications onto your statements? Perhaps a willingness to entertain the notion or the act is not where Psy's boundary lay?