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Richard Dawkins obliterates the 10 Commandments.
RE: Richard Dawkins obliterates the 10 Commandments.
(June 18, 2013 at 7:14 pm)ronedee Wrote: The only thing important to you, is you.

Please, enlighten us with how you know this about him.

(I'm going to go on record saying that you either pulled this out of your ass, or are making a generalization about atheists.)
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RE: Richard Dawkins obliterates the 10 Commandments.
(June 19, 2013 at 1:39 am)ronedee Wrote:
(June 19, 2013 at 12:19 am)max-greece Wrote: In response to which question? The defining moment question? Possibly.

Did you always have faith or did you suddenly get it. So many people in America seem to suddenly get faith and are "born again." For them this appears to be a magnificent awakening.

It can be exactly the same for an atheist. The best analogy I can come up with would be the feeling I imagine a slave got when his chains were finally broken. I called that moment conciousness.

I know its probably totally alien to you but for many Atheists the idea of God is an anathema. The concept is actually repugnant. In some ways more for Jesus than for any other aspect.

I don't want to belabour that point as it is obviously the very things you believe in that horrify me. Difficult to communicate such things without someone getting really upset.
WoW! Is there any one aspect that makes you feel that way? Or is it several aspects? Why the Jesus revulsion? Is it His weakness, love or humility?

I just would like to understand it.
I would just like to pile on here. What max says about deconversion is absolutely correct. No disrespect, but when I figured out I should reject the stuff that jesus freaks were trying to pack into my head, it was at once liberating and terrifying and awe-inspiring. They'd been telling me what a great experience it was to be 'saved', the irony is I only experienced the kind of thing they were talking about by thoroughly rejecting their mythology.

As far as the whys, for me, Hitchens sums it up best with his 'celestial dictatorship' analogy. I don't want to believe in that. Fortunately, I don't have to believe in that, because I don't think it's likely, because the many logical absurdities and clear signs of man's handiwork tell me it's fiction.
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RE: Richard Dawkins obliterates the 10 Commandments.
Where was "thou shalt respect thy children" when I needed it most? Fuck christianity.
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RE: Richard Dawkins obliterates the 10 Commandments.
(June 22, 2013 at 4:48 pm)Walking Void Wrote: Where was "thou shalt respect thy children" when I needed it most? Fuck christianity.

Missing - which is a pity as it could so easily have been bolted on after the respect your parents bit.

Also missing - rape, slavery, paedophilia etc.

Yet coveting made it in - go figure!
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RE: Richard Dawkins obliterates the 10 Commandments.
(June 22, 2013 at 6:09 pm)max-greece Wrote: Also missing - rape, slavery, paedophilia etc.

Yet coveting made it in - go figure!

This has to be the most moronic commandment. According to this dictate, the only things you can ever want are things you already have! You're starving and you want food? BZZZTTT!! COVETING! You're homeless and you want a place to live? BZZZTTT!! COVETING!!!

What stupidity...
Science flies us to the moon and stars. Religion flies us into buildings.

God allowed 200,000 people to die in an earthquake. So what makes you think he cares about YOUR problems?
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RE: Richard Dawkins obliterates the 10 Commandments.
(June 23, 2013 at 3:31 pm)Thor Wrote: This has to be the most moronic commandment. According to this dictate, the only things you can ever want are things you already have! You're starving and you want food? BZZZTTT!! COVETING! You're homeless and you want a place to live? BZZZTTT!! COVETING!!!

What stupidity...

Especially if you consider that god himself must have wanted something, else he wouldn't have needed to create the universe to begin with... Tongue
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RE: Richard Dawkins obliterates the 10 Commandments.
Equally interesting in that it is a thought crime. That's true fascism for you - more big brother than you could ever imagine.
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RE: Richard Dawkins obliterates the 10 Commandments.
(June 24, 2013 at 8:44 am)max-greece Wrote: Equally interesting in that it is a thought crime. That's true fascism for you - more big brother than you could ever imagine.

Is it any wonder Stalin wanted to forbid religion? Who can blame him; it was the only thing better at totalitarianism than him!
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RE: Richard Dawkins obliterates the 10 Commandments.
Competition for acquiescence to total authority never sits well with despots. Doesn't matter whether the despot is earthly or imagined, clearly.
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