viocjit, if you don't mind my asking you, how is an Agnostic also a Christian?
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   (July 8, 2013 at 9:28 am)BadWriterSparty Wrote: viocjit, if you don't mind my asking you, how is an Agnostic also a Christian? Based on what "agnostic" means, most Christians would be. "Agnosticism" is a lack of knowledge of spiritual matters. Most Christians would claim that their beliefs are a matter of "faith" and not knowledge. They don't know that their religion is true but choose to take a leap of faith and therefore believe without knowledge. In fact, I'm not sure how faith would work without agnosticism. If you knew something to be true, you wouldn't need faith at all. Vio, feel free to correct me if I'm not understanding you.
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"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too." ... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept "(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question" ... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist (July 8, 2013 at 8:51 am)viocjit Wrote:(July 7, 2013 at 4:28 pm)whateverist Wrote: Absolutely correct. The male body is essentially a testosterone infused female body. I'm not sure if it makes any sense to ask how a human body infused with neither estrogen nor testosterone would develop or what it would eventually look like. I'm curious how you would square this knowledge of the SRY gene, that effectively masculinizes the developing fetus, with the assertion of Genesis 2:23 Quote:Gen 2:23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man. It seems men are taken out of women, not the other way around but you may have a different interpretation of that verse. Also, just wanted to bring your attention to my reply on "agnostic Christian" to see if I understand you correctly. 
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"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too." ... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept "(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question" ... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist (July 8, 2013 at 10:46 am)DeistPaladin Wrote: Based on what "agnostic" means, most Christians would be. From my seemingly limited understanding, agnosticism may be a skeptical viewpoint on spiritual matters, but it also discounts belief in things not understood. So by his assertion that he is an Agnostic Christian, he doesn't have a belief in the Christian God, but he upholds the idea that it could be true. I don't see how most Christians could be agnostics. Though many know how to reason things out, they still uphold a belief in their god, leaving agnosticism out of the question since that requires them to not believe. Not believing doesn't make someone a full-fledged atheist (again, from my limited understanding, as it seems). What separates an agnostic from an atheist is that agnostics claim that there can be a god, whereas atheists don't make any claims, deciding instead that we just don't know. By this line of reasoning, an agnostic atheist makes more sense than an agnostic Christian, unless the latter simply upholds the traditions of the assumed faith while lacking belief in it.  (July 8, 2013 at 10:37 am)BadWriterSparty Wrote:(July 8, 2013 at 9:48 am)viocjit Wrote: I understand the words "Agnostic Christian" like a person who doubt about Christianity. If Summer can be a jew he can be a christian. You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid. Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis. (July 8, 2013 at 11:59 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: If Summer can be a jew he can be a christian. Jewish is a people and a culture as well as a religion. Thus, you can be an atheist Jew. You're still a person and part of a culture; you've just dropped the religion part. Islamo-Christianity is strictly a religion. Anyone from anywhere and any family background can join and be a full-fledged member. Thus, since it is strictly a religion, you can't be a member and not buy into the religion. This is also why you can be critical of Islam without being a "racist". Islam is not a race.
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"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too." ... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept "(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question" ... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist (July 8, 2013 at 12:15 pm)BadWriterSparty Wrote:(July 8, 2013 at 11:59 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: If Summer can be a jew he can be a christian. Only if you self identify as one. Do you? You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid. Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis. |
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