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RE: Religious beliefs need to stop.
August 26, 2013 at 9:08 am
(August 26, 2013 at 8:50 am)Texas Sailor Wrote: This is what is referred to as textbook Cherry-Picking.
I don't really see any inconsistency, so Jesus had a nicer way of putting the importance of adhering to Gods will across.
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RE: Religious beliefs need to stop.
August 26, 2013 at 9:11 am
Quote:I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator.
Quote:Who says I am not under the special protection of God?
Quote:My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross. As a Christian, I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice.
Adolf Hitler
in the above passage at least he self identifies as christian over and over again.
It is also true that even if he had not personally a believer then the vast majority of Germans would have been and none of the atrocities would have been possible without them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_v...olf_Hitler
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RE: Religious beliefs need to stop.
August 26, 2013 at 9:13 am
Hitler said whatever people wanted to hear that's how his charisma worked. In private he mocked Christianity and had a liking for Islam.
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RE: Religious beliefs need to stop.
August 26, 2013 at 9:27 am
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"The dogma of Christianity gets worn away before the advances of science. Religion will have to make more and more concessions. Gradually the myths crumble. All that's left is to prove that in nature there is no frontier between the organic and the inorganic. When understanding of the universe has become widespread, when the majority of men know that the stars are not sources of light but worlds, perhaps inhabited worlds like ours, then the Christian doctrine will be convicted of absurdity." Adolf Hitler
"What nonsense! Here we have at last reached an age that has left all mysticism behind it, and now [Himmler] wants to start that all over again. We might just as well have stayed with the church. At least it had tradition. To think that I may some day be turned into an SS saint! Can you imagine it? I would turn over in my grave..." Adolf Hitler
"When one thinks of the opinions held concerning Christianity by our best minds a hundred, two hundred years ago, one is ashamed to realise how little we have since evolved. I didn't know that Julian the Apostate had passed judgment with such clear-sightedness on Christianity and Christians.... the Galilean, who later was called the Christ, intended something quite different. He must be regarded as a popular leader who took up His position against Jewry... and it's certain that Jesus was not a Jew. The Jews, by the way, regarded Him as the son of a whore—of a whore and a Roman soldier. The decisive falsification of Jesus's doctrine was the work of St. Paul.... Paul of Tarsus (his name was Saul, before the road to Damascus) was one of those who persecuted Jesus most savagely." Adolf Hitler
"The political leader should not estimate the worth of a religion by taking some of its shortcomings into account, but he should ask himself whether there be any practical substitute in a view which is demonstrably better. Until such a substitute be available only fools and criminals would think of abolishing the existing religion." Adolf Hitler
"What we must fight for is to safeguard the existence and the reproduction of our race ... so that our people may mature for the fulfillment of the mission allotted it by the creator of the universe. ... Peoples that bastardize themselves, or let themselves be bastardized, sin against the will of eternal Providence." Adolf Hitler
I can't find the quote on Islam but he preferred it over Christianity and thought it a shame that the Muslims hadn't conquered Europe in the dark ages. He had an idea that the Muslims being ill adapted to the European climate and generally racially inferior overall would have died out leaving a strong Germanic Islamic empire ruled from Europe. The Nazi movement essentially was a religious movement in it's own right and Hitler was it's prophet.
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RE: Religious beliefs need to stop.
August 26, 2013 at 9:29 am
Where did you get these quotes from?
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RE: Religious beliefs need to stop.
August 26, 2013 at 9:37 am
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Wikipedia. The quotes are all sourced. Look up "Hitler on Religion".
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RE: Religious beliefs need to stop.
August 26, 2013 at 9:42 am
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Hold on, edits ahoy -
All I see under religious views of Hitler are a bunch of contradictions. Openly, he used Christianity. In private, he seemed to insinuate its use for manipulation. He more than likely believed in something, but that's not the point - either way he used religion to reign his population, and it was Christianity. Of course he would have used whatever religion dominated his population. But describing what happened to germany as them "turning away from god" is vastly oversimplified and inaccurate.
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RE: Religious beliefs need to stop.
August 26, 2013 at 9:51 am
The only thing Hitler really like and latched onto was historical Christian antisemitism. Of course Jesus himself didn't preach this, being Jewish himself.
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RE: Religious beliefs need to stop.
August 26, 2013 at 9:54 am
And... you see how Christianity is still in that equation?