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Ever hear a christian say something so stupid.(Horror stories here)
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RE: Ever hear a christian say something so stupid.(Horror stories here)
(September 26, 2013 at 8:47 am)Doubting Thomas Wrote:
(September 26, 2013 at 7:23 am)Brian37 Wrote: Atheists do this too. They will point to other atheists and say "They make me look bad when they behave that way".

I say, no, it doesn't make you look bad, it makes them look bad. Atheists like any other label, ultimately we are still individuals first.

But unfortunately when it comes to atheists, if one atheist does something bad, it means all atheists are evil, immoral people. If one Christian does something bad, he's not a true Christian because a true Christian wouldn't do that.

No, my point is if we start using the "guilt by association" trap, we will end up like them.

I HAVE seen atheists say "true atheist", not much mind you, but it has happened.

Evolution is the same no matter our labels and we as a species have always been capable of doing both good and bad and our behavior is a range as of both good and bad.

I have also seen atheists say "when we become the majority we will treat you better". NO, when you look at the collective behavior of our species, you far too often see once the oppressed becomes the oppressor. That is a result of evolution, not our labels.

I judge atheists the same way I judge Muslims and Jews and Christians and Hindus and Buddhists ect ect ect. I can like you as an individual without liking everything you might do or claim.

A much undervalued book in atheism which I think is just as important as "The God Delusion" is Victor Stinger's "The New Atheism", which conveys humanity's common existence.
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RE: Ever hear a christian say something so stupid.(Horror stories here)
(September 26, 2013 at 8:55 am)gall Wrote: These fools should not hold public office or get votes. It shows something about those that get them elected. Fucking morons and plenty more where that came from. They need to get taken out to a small island and fight it out lord of the flies style and yeah that is it no punch line just let them fight it out and forget about them.

You'd need more than a small island. Remember that these are politicians, and they will cater to the constituency. If they're saying stuff like that, it's because they know that no matter how it plays on the larger stage, in their county or city or state it will get them elected. In some cases they are counting on hundreds of thousands of votes. Possibly millions.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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RE: Ever hear a christian say something so stupid.(Horror stories here)
(September 26, 2013 at 11:10 am)Tonus Wrote:
(September 26, 2013 at 8:55 am)gall Wrote: These fools should not hold public office or get votes. It shows something about those that get them elected. Fucking morons and plenty more where that came from. They need to get taken out to a small island and fight it out lord of the flies style and yeah that is it no punch line just let them fight it out and forget about them.

You'd need more than a small island. Remember that these are politicians, and they will cater to the constituency. If they're saying stuff like that, it's because they know that no matter how it plays on the larger stage, in their county or city or state it will get them elected. In some cases they are counting on hundreds of thousands of votes. Possibly millions.

Well not small.

I was thinking of using Antarctica.

I do understand how politicians work...lol why else do I want to round them up all animal style and treat them like cattle. Soilent green, that phrase keeps coming into my head.
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RE: Ever hear a christian say something so stupid.(Horror stories here)
(September 26, 2013 at 1:37 pm)gall Wrote:
(September 26, 2013 at 11:10 am)Tonus Wrote: You'd need more than a small island. Remember that these are politicians, and they will cater to the constituency. If they're saying stuff like that, it's because they know that no matter how it plays on the larger stage, in their county or city or state it will get them elected. In some cases they are counting on hundreds of thousands of votes. Possibly millions.

Well not small.

I was thinking of using Antarctica.

I do understand how politicians work...lol why else do I want to round them up all animal style and treat them like cattle. Soilent green, that phrase keeps coming into my head.

Fuck man don't hate the penguins that much
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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