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RE: "Old" atheism, "New"atheism, atheism 3.0, WTF?
January 21, 2010 at 7:59 pm
Yeah. I think that the claim that there even is a distinct "New atheism" due to a revival of interest is as bullshit as saying that there is a "New Zoroastrianism" because more people worldwide became professed believers. It's pretty much the same idea: "religion is bullshit" gaining new currency.
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RE: "Old" atheism, "New"atheism, atheism 3.0, WTF?
January 22, 2010 at 10:38 am
Oh dear.... poor little religious feelings might get hurt. I better switch to part 3 of the trilogy: 'Atheism 3.0'.
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RE: "Old" atheism, "New"atheism, atheism 3.0, WTF?
January 22, 2010 at 11:29 am
I'm a believer of Atheism 4.0. It's actually a lot like being a Lutheran Christian, except we wear awesome turtlenecks and berets.
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RE: "Old" atheism, "New"atheism, atheism 3.0, WTF?
January 22, 2010 at 11:38 am
Atheism 5.0 - A lack of a belief in belief of any kind.
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RE: "Old" atheism, "New"atheism, atheism 3.0, WTF?
January 22, 2010 at 11:57 am
Atheism 6.0: ????
Atheism 7.0: Profit!!
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RE: "Old" atheism, "New"atheism, atheism 3.0, WTF?
January 22, 2010 at 1:51 pm
I think I get why the rebranding occurs. Atheism gets part of its validity from the fact that it is new and doesn't adhere to old traditions so rebranding can be viewed as "better."
Religious truths seem to base part of their truth on the age of the texts they derive their truth from so therefore many of the new sects claim older knowledge. More traditional is often viewed as "better."
Neither has anything to do with rational argumentation. I am simply speaking about rhetoric that people use to nudge listeners or readers towards their particular viewpoint. I think it is crazy to see atheism as anything more than a lack of belief in god/gods but their might be some value in rebranding to appeal to a larger demographic. Like maybe fat free atheism, atheism lite, or even atheism EXTREME! It certainly seems to jazz some people's shorts to call themselves "militant atheist" "strong atheist" "agnostic atheist."
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RE: "Old" atheism, "New"atheism, atheism 3.0, WTF?
January 22, 2010 at 2:05 pm
(January 21, 2010 at 2:41 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: Why do people keep on piling on useless definitions.
I do not believe in God therefore I am an atheist.
Nuff said.
Is there a catholsism 3.0 now washes sins away at a only 30 degrees.
Or Islam 3.0 take two bombs to the subway, I use...... The label to some is the big issue.
Just ask me if I have believe in the supernatural and I'll say no. It's that simple. Those category fuckers are not interested in individual opinion, they want their labeling dogma to work correctly.
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RE: "Old" atheism, "New"atheism, atheism 3.0, WTF?
January 22, 2010 at 7:58 pm
(January 22, 2010 at 2:05 pm)Purple Rabbit Wrote: Just ask me if I have belief in the supernatural and I'll say no. It's that simple.
What if it's completely natural?
Rhiz Wrote:Atheism gets part of its validity from the fact that it is new and doesn't adhere to old traditions so rebranding can be viewed as "better."
Yo shittin me right??
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RE: "Old" atheism, "New"atheism, atheism 3.0, WTF?
January 22, 2010 at 9:06 pm
Are we saying a kinder, gentler atheism? I think what is happening is that people are getting to know atheists and the perception of us is changing.
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RE: "Old" atheism, "New"atheism, atheism 3.0, WTF?
January 22, 2010 at 11:14 pm
I can't help but draw a correlation between the "New Atheism v3.0" and the fact that teenagers insist that THEY and only THEY have discovered the truth.
All seems rather infantile imho.
Atheism = Absence of a deity
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