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Why atheism always has a burden of proof
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You can't prove the non-existence of God though you can't prove the existence of God scientifically like that as he isn't physically detectable in any form. No-one has a burden of proof only a belief either way.
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Compulsive procrastinator  Religious Views: Agnostic atheist, anti-theist, whovian, misanthrope? (October 10, 2013 at 5:36 am)Sword of Christ Wrote: You can't prove the non-existence of God though you can't prove the existence of God scientifically like that as he isn't physically detectable in any form. No-one has a burden of proof only a belief either way. The problem is, they believe god exists, and then they claim he does. Thats why theists have a burden of proof (Theists who claim a god exists anyway)
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 (October 10, 2013 at 5:36 am)Sword of Christ Wrote: You can't prove the non-existence of God though you can't prove the existence of God scientifically like that as he isn't physically detectable in any form. No-one has a burden of proof only a belief either way.There's a reason there's nothing to detect. (October 10, 2013 at 6:27 am)NoraBrimstone Wrote: There's a reason there's nothing to detect. The reason being he isn't a physically created thing within the universe he made the universe and all the things we can see and detect to begin with.
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 (October 10, 2013 at 6:45 am)Sword of Christ Wrote: The reason being he isn't a physically created thing within the universe he made the universe and all the things we can see and detect to begin with. Does he interact with the physical universe in any way at all?
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Want to see more of my writing? Check out my (safe for work!) site, Unprotected Sects! (October 10, 2013 at 7:01 am)Esquilax Wrote: Does he interact with the physical universe in any way at all? Of course, look around you at the rest of humanity and within yourself.
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(October 10, 2013 at 7:16 am)Sword of Christ Wrote:(October 10, 2013 at 7:01 am)Esquilax Wrote: Does he interact with the physical universe in any way at all? Then we can test the effects, and demonstrate his existence with science, because things that interact with the physical world are within the bounds of scientific investigation.
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Want to see more of my writing? Check out my (safe for work!) site, Unprotected Sects!  (October 10, 2013 at 6:45 am)Sword of Christ Wrote:(October 10, 2013 at 6:27 am)NoraBrimstone Wrote: There's a reason there's nothing to detect. If "creating stuff" is what god does, then why did he quit? We could detect new stuff being created even if we couldn't detect the creator. If a new planet popped up in our solar system tomorrow we'd know something is up! But alas, god had to stop creating things too, just like he had to hide all the evidence of the jewish exodus, the garden of eden, the tower of Babel, the trees of life and knowledge, the arc of the covenant, and the magic bones of the prophets, just so us sciency intellectuals don't have a reason to believe he exists.
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RE: Why atheism always has a burden of proof
October 10, 2013 at 7:26 am
(This post was last modified: October 10, 2013 at 7:29 am by Sword of Christ.)
(October 10, 2013 at 7:17 am)Esquilax Wrote: Then we can test the effects, and demonstrate his existence with science Yes to a certain extent but it's limited to observation of physically detectable matter/energy. ![[Image: sit02_bscan.jpg]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=www.christianprophecy.org.uk%2Ftselem700px%2Fsit02_bscan.jpg) ![[Image: brain-scan-comparisons.png]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=hplusmagazine.com%2Fsites%2Fdefault%2Ffiles%2Fimages%2Farticles%2Fbrain-scan-comparisons.png) ![[Image: pet1b.gif]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=andrewnewberg.com%2Fgraphics%2Fpet1b.gif) We can observe that people do enter into a physically observable spiritual state but of course we can't prove God is the source of the cause. Because we can't observe God. Quote:because things that interact with the physical world are within the bounds of scientific investigation. I'm not disagreeing with you but the point still stands that you can see, detect or "prove" God.
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