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RE: Some Simple Questions show Atheistic Origin Science is false (proof 2 begins)
October 10, 2013 at 9:22 am
(October 10, 2013 at 9:21 am)Rationalman Wrote: We don't know how the universe began. We don't know how life started on this planet. We don't know if there is a god or not. But (as this has been explained to you many times) this does not mean that your claim of a god is true by default
Well I am glad that you have admitted that you do not know.
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RE: Some Simple Questions show Atheistic Origin Science is false (proof 2 begins)
October 10, 2013 at 9:24 am
Thats what everyone has been saying from the start you fucking idiot. We have been give theories and hypothesis for how we think these things came to be, but we have never claimed to know
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RE: Some Simple Questions show Atheistic Origin Science is false (proof 2 begins)
October 10, 2013 at 10:22 am
(October 10, 2013 at 9:22 am)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: Well I am glad that you have admitted that you do not know.
It'd be nice if you did the same.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
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RE: Some Simple Questions show Atheistic Origin Science is false (proof 2 begins)
October 10, 2013 at 10:50 am
(October 10, 2013 at 9:07 am)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: I am just 1 part time person debating a number of people simultaneously.
No, a debate would have everyone held to the same standard, not this facile charade you're pulling, where everyone else needs to account for every last detail of the subject, but you need provide no evidence at all.
Quote:You have danced around facts and logic.
Right, which is why I have posted numerous links to mainstream scientific sources, all of which you have ignored, while simultaneously not posting any of your own, or justified a single word you've said. One of us is dancing, but it isn't me.
Quote:All I asked for is that I control the debate.
And the mods- at least one of which is a theist- have told you that your conditions are entirely one sided and ridiculous.
Quote:But I can understand that you do not have the facts, logic or science on your side.
So, despite the fact that I actually agreed with your conditions on the last page- up to and including actually accepting the challenge- and had to be restrained from going ahead by the mods, you've seen fit to cast this as me giving up? No, Gracie, you're the one running; the moment someone decided that the rules should be even to both parties, you've suddenly gone quiet. Well, guess what? I'm still here: my challenge still stands, but I'll understand if you lack the strength of conviction to go up against me in a fair fight.
Quote:Well I am glad that you have admitted that you do not know.
We also admit that you don't know either. That's the whole point.
Feel free to debate on a level playing field if you feel this isn't true.
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RE: Some Simple Questions show Atheistic Origin Science is false (proof 2 begins)
October 10, 2013 at 10:53 am
(October 10, 2013 at 10:50 am)Esquilax Wrote: (October 10, 2013 at 9:07 am)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: I am just 1 part time person debating a number of people simultaneously.
No, a debate would have everyone held to the same standard, not this facile charade you're pulling, where everyone else needs to account for every last detail of the subject, but you need provide no evidence at all.
Quote:You have danced around facts and logic.
Right, which is why I have posted numerous links to mainstream scientific sources, all of which you have ignored, while simultaneously not posting any of your own, or justified a single word you've said. One of us is dancing, but it isn't me.
Quote:All I asked for is that I control the debate.
And the mods- at least one of which is a theist- have told you that your conditions are entirely one sided and ridiculous.
Quote:But I can understand that you do not have the facts, logic or science on your side.
So, despite the fact that I actually agreed with your conditions on the last page- up to and including actually accepting the challenge- and had to be restrained from going ahead by the mods, you've seen fit to cast this as me giving up? No, Gracie, you're the one running; the moment someone decided that the rules should be even to both parties, you've suddenly gone quiet. Well, guess what? I'm still here: my challenge still stands, but I'll understand if you lack the strength of conviction to go up against me in a fair fight.
Quote:Well I am glad that you have admitted that you do not know.
We also admit that you don't know either. That's the whole point.
Feel free to debate on a level playing field if you feel this isn't true.
You said that you do not know. Now we are in agreement.
I know though.
But how can you say I do not know, if you already admitted that you do not know.
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RE: Some Simple Questions show Atheistic Origin Science is false (proof 2 begins)
October 10, 2013 at 10:59 am
(October 10, 2013 at 10:53 am)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: You said that you do not know. Now we are in agreement.
I know though.
But how can you say I do not know, if you already admitted that you do not know.
I know you don't know, because your posts are a clear demonstration that you don't know.
But you can prove all this in a formal debate, if you like. I noticed you conveniently ignored those portions of my post. Scared?
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RE: Some Simple Questions show Atheistic Origin Science is false (proof 2 begins)
October 10, 2013 at 11:22 am
(October 10, 2013 at 10:53 am)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: I know though.
I call bullshit.
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RE: Some Simple Questions show Atheistic Origin Science is false (proof 2 begins)
October 10, 2013 at 11:23 am
(October 10, 2013 at 10:53 am)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: (October 10, 2013 at 10:50 am)Esquilax Wrote: No, a debate would have everyone held to the same standard, not this facile charade you're pulling, where everyone else needs to account for every last detail of the subject, but you need provide no evidence at all.
Right, which is why I have posted numerous links to mainstream scientific sources, all of which you have ignored, while simultaneously not posting any of your own, or justified a single word you've said. One of us is dancing, but it isn't me.
And the mods- at least one of which is a theist- have told you that your conditions are entirely one sided and ridiculous.
So, despite the fact that I actually agreed with your conditions on the last page- up to and including actually accepting the challenge- and had to be restrained from going ahead by the mods, you've seen fit to cast this as me giving up? No, Gracie, you're the one running; the moment someone decided that the rules should be even to both parties, you've suddenly gone quiet. Well, guess what? I'm still here: my challenge still stands, but I'll understand if you lack the strength of conviction to go up against me in a fair fight.
We also admit that you don't know either. That's the whole point.
Feel free to debate on a level playing field if you feel this isn't true.
You said that you do not know. Now we are in agreement.
I know though.
But how can you say I do not know, if you already admitted that you do not know.
You don't know, you believe. Not at all the same thing.
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RE: Some Simple Questions show Atheistic Origin Science is false (proof 2 begins)
October 10, 2013 at 11:38 am
I thinks its time for GRACIE to start another thread
What's the next piece of propaganda GRACIE
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RE: Some Simple Questions show Atheistic Origin Science is false (proof 2 begins)
October 10, 2013 at 11:46 am
(October 10, 2013 at 11:38 am)tokutter Wrote: I thinks its time for GRACIE to start another thread
What's the next piece of propaganda GRACIE
Ugh, don't encourage her!
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