Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.

[Hey313313]

I feel (personal opinion) as if believing in God is harder than believing in science, (for a true believer) because you have to abstain from so many things purely because of your faith, in hopes of having a life worth living after this world. To me it's worth it, coinciding with the modern ideal of "do it if it feels right."

[freedomfromforum]

"do it if it feels right."
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There are 13 states that currently won't let me.

[Zazzy]

I feel (personal opinion) as if believing in God is harder than believing in science, (for a true believer) because you have to abstain from so many things purely because of your faith, in hopes of having a life worth living after this world. To me it's worth it, coinciding with the modern ideal of "do it if it feels right."

I agree that it seems as if it would be very difficult to have religious faith, but why do you have to pit it against science? The two are not mutually exclusive. I know many happy theistic scientists who have no trouble with reconciling their faith with their jobs. Why not accept both?

[Hey313313]

All ideals aren't legal, but it seems as if slowly and surely they are being legalized. Who's to say what one can and can't do, especially if morals are a bi-product of books written by idiots and evolution.

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Zazzy, I believe in science and also in human error (on so many levels the latter) I don't think science contradicts a Creator, rather it strengthens my belief in one. I don't know why some act as if God and science cannot coexist. Maybe science as we know it can't prove God as we know Him? just a theory.

[Kayenneh]

I feel (personal opinion) as if believing in God is harder than believing in science, (for a true believer) because you have to abstain from so many things purely because of your faith

And that's the gist of it. For instance, if you are a muslim or a jew, you are not allowed to eat pork. Why? Well, according to the religions, the pig is not a clean animal. That is actually wrong, pigs are actually quite tidy. The problem lies with a lovely little parasitic roundworm called Trichinella spiralis, which pigs sometimes carry. If you don't cook pork right, you can get infected. Thanks to science, we know that cooking pork for seven minutes in at least 70oC will kill them off and the meat is safe to eat.

So ask yourself, why do you need to abstain from certain things due to your faith? Is there any explanation, other than 'just because it's said to be so'? If you don't find a viable reason, why follow it?

in hopes of having a life worth living after this world.

And another point I like to make. I see the probability of an afterlife highly improbable. The only thing we are certain of is that we live here and now. For all you know, you have only one life, so make it count.

To me it's worth it, coinciding with the modern ideal of "do it if it feels right."

And that's what people do (I hope), regardless of their creed. I just want to point out that nothing you can/are allowed to do should be out question, as long as you don't intentionally (and maybe give it a thought that your actions go further and affect more people than you realize) hurt anyone.

What you believe and how you give meaning to your life is up to you, that's your right that no one can take away, but my two cents is that you at least ask yourself the question "Why?" from time to time.

[Hey313313]

Kayenneh, but who's to say we can't hurt people, just because it isn't accepted by most of society and is against our judicial system, does that mean it's "wrong?"

[Kayenneh]

Kayenneh, but who's to say we can't hurt people, just because it isn't accepted by most of society and is against our judicial system, does that mean it's "wrong?"

Here comes evolution in, we as a species are hardwired to get along as a group and be empathic, since it it beneficial for our survival. So the golden rule still stands, do not treat others in a manner you would not want be treated yourself. The only ones who don't seem to grasp the concept are sociopaths. And you can hurt people, as long as it is consensual and the other party don't mind.

[Hey313313]

But other animals (also products of evolution) intentionally hurt one another, and it seems to be the basis of many of their activities (finding a mate.) so why should we get punished for it?

[Searching4truth]

The size of our galaxy is unfathomable. The size of our solar system within our galaxy is equivalent to a pinpoint on a dart board. That's just one galaxy. The size of our sun compared to the largest known star is like a grain of sand in a bathtub full of sand. If you fly at 500 mph around the star, it would take more than 1,000 years to encircle it one. The universe creates and destroys all kinds of matter, stars and such. Why the hell ( which doesn't exist) would god create all that for nothing and be so enamored with us and our little planet earth? Man created god to explain what we don't understand. Why do you have to understand where it came from? Just admire that it's here. It doesn't need an explanation and its bigger than any god

[Kayenneh]

But other animals (also products of evolution) intentionally hurt one another, and it seems to be the basis of many of their activities (finding a mate.) so why should we get punished for it?

We are humans, not flamingoes, not ants, not dogs, so human behaviour is the only thing we should be concerned about. Would you like (if you're male) to have to fist fight all other candidates when any woman ovulates? Or (if you're female) would you appreciate having guys fight for you and the winner got to mount you?