Calling Out Demolition Deniers

[Autumnlicious]

9/11 truthers are like birthers.

Just when you think they're dead and buried, they come back like motherfucking night of the living dead...

[Rayaan]

The "second" explosion was debunked.

That was not a detenation caused by explosives, but debris falling from the towers in the elevator shaft.

I disagree, because I don't think that the falling of debris would make such a loud and distinct sound of explosion, and because ...

"Even if the planes’ impacts and the fall of the debris from the Towers onto the ground could have generated seismic waves, their magnitude would have been insufficient to be recorded 34 km away and should have been very similar in the two cases to one another. As we have shown, they were not."

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/12/s...n-911.html

Rayaan, what are your motivations for this conspiracy nonsence?

Oh, just to demonstrate your

And does it have something to do with you being muslim?

I don't think so.

I used to believe that the 9/11 attacks were orchestrated by some Muslims extremists/terrorists as well (for the first 10 years after the 9/11) and that didn't really affect my perception of Muslims in general nor about Islam because I know for a fact that such an action is not supported by our religion at all. However, it was only after I started to research on this subject about 2 years ago that I began to realize that a lot of things about the 9/11 suggest that it was actually an inside job. I don't claim to know that for sure, but the conspiracy theory makes a lot more sense to me.

If I want to know something about a battle, I'll go ask a couple of privates what they saw from their foxhole. That should give me the whole picture, right?

Not necessarily the whole picture, but eyewitness accounts can be a very useful contribution to our knowledge of an event, especially when there are many reports and when the amount of similarity between the reports are much greater than the amount of contradictions between them. The 9/11 seems to be an example of this.

The thing is that you cannot look at the whole picture by just taking one particular fact or information that is presented to you. You have to gather information from many different sources, put all the pieces togother, and only then you may get close to seeing the whole picture. So first-hand accounts are an important part of such an investigative process; you cannot ignore them entirely.

You conveniently leave out the fact that there is no evidence for any demolition activity.

There are some evidence, in fact.

And, as has been demonstrated controlled demolitions begin at the bottom of a building...not the top.

They can start from the top to the bottom as well.

And witnesses did say that they heard and saw explosions at the basement of one of the towers. See the second video in my OP.

If there were actual demolition charges at the bottom of that building those guys would be dead.

They won't dead if they were far enough and somehow escaped within time. One can still see and hear explosions from a distance. It's not something impossible.

[Rayaan]

Rayaan, the Prof is on your side. This should tell you something.

It just tells me that he agrees with me. That's all.

You didn't refute squat, except maybe others' opinions.

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No ... I was refuting the undeniable TRUTH! I was refuting 100% facts and undeniable EVIDENCE!
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[Captain Colostomy]

This shit makes me sad.

[bladevalant546]

Let us all get soe perspective here, we may never know the truth behind 9/11. We can also argue all day long if it was an inside job, or more elaborate, or it was exactly as the government stated, however thoses are irrelevant now. The point is there was 4 planes hijacked, the people on those planes are gone or dead, planes hit the towers and the pentagon was hit. What we need to focus on is what happened after 9/11. That is the most important thing we SHOULD really be debating here.

[Whateverist]

Didn't watch the videos but I was curious to find out why anyone believes this crap. Still don't know. Kind of like my curiosity about belief in gods. Still don't know why people want to believe that either. In the case of believing in gods, at least there is the excuse that your parents made you drink the kool ade since forever. Maybe once you start believing in weird shit there is a tendency to look for more weird shit? I don't know, but there are atheists who believe this crap too.

[LastPoet]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ch1slDf63Zw

Sorry, couldn't resist

[Minimalist]

but eyewitness accounts can be a very useful

I disagree. I've served on juries and eye-witnesses are highly overrated. A competent defense attorney can reduce them to blubbering piles of goo on the witness stand because most people are about as observant as a loaf of bread. The forensic evidence is always more damning.

The fact that these guys were in the lobby - so they say - and survived is ample proof that what they heard were not explosions from a controlled demolition. They would have been killed when the building fell down on their head.

[freedomfromforum]

You must all come with me! Do not panic! Surrender at once!

[Psykhronic]