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To those who believe in Heaven and hell
#31
RE: To those who believe in Heaven and hell
(November 8, 2013 at 7:28 pm)Godschild Wrote:
(November 8, 2013 at 2:36 pm)ToriJ Wrote: Since Godschild is too lazy to look up scripture,

Matthew 22:29-33
Jesus replied, "You are in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God. At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven. But about the resurrection of the dead--have you not read what God said to you, 'I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob' ? He is not the God of the dead but of the living." When the crowds heard this, they were astonished at his teaching.

Luke 13:29
People will come from east and west and north and south, and will take their places at the feast in the kingdom of God.

John 14:2-4
In my Father's house are many rooms; if it were not so, I would have told you. I am going there to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am. You know the way to the place where I am going."

2 Corinthians 5
For we know that if the earthly tent we live in is destroyed, we have a building from God, an eternal house in heaven, not built by human hands. Meanwhile we groan, longing to be clothed instead with our heavenly dwelling, because when we are clothed, we will not be found naked. For while we are in this tent, we groan and are burdened, because we do not wish to be unclothed but to be clothed instead with our heavenly dwelling, so that what is mortal may be swallowed up by life. Now the one who has fashioned us for this very purpose is God, who has given us the Spirit as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come.

Luke 12:35-37
Stay dressed for action and keep your lamps burning, and be like men who are waiting for their master to come home from the wedding feast, so that they may open the door to him at once when he comes and knocks. Blessed are those servants whom the master finds awake when he comes. Truly, I say to you, he will dress himself for service and have them recline at table, and he will come and serve them.

I have a feeling the first part I cited is why some people believe they'll literally become angels when they get into heaven.

Great job, when you've been here as long as I have you probably will be wondering why people can't pick up a book and reference these things.

I'm not lazy, I've researched many scriptures and brought them to light, I get tired of people thinking I'm going to post things that are not in scripture, again great job and maybe you can teach ZB how to do that. One more thing I've been told that people do not read the scriptures I post.

GC

I asked a simple question GC, no need for you to be a total arse.

And thanks ToriJ for answering, it is appreciated.
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#32
RE: To those who believe in Heaven and hell
(November 8, 2013 at 8:15 pm)freedomfromfallacy Wrote: @GC,

My wife is a Christian. Do I get carry-over salvation by marriage association?

Nope.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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#33
RE: To those who believe in Heaven and hell
(November 8, 2013 at 2:10 pm)Godschild Wrote:
(November 8, 2013 at 7:17 am)Zen Badger Wrote: Where in the bible does it state this?

I'm not your research assistant, go read.

GC

(November 8, 2013 at 5:42 am)max-greece Wrote: " Yes because we are in a sinless state we will see God and worship in His presence. Remember we will live forever, so your 5 google is as nothing."

But what if we've been good during our lives?

This is heaven? Keep it.

What the fuck is this God that needs to be worshipped all the fucking time? Enough already - get over yourself - we know - all powerful and shit but for fuck's sakes - more praying?

No wonder 1/3rd of the angels left with Lucifer!

Why is the concept of unconditional love so completely unknown to God?

I bet you're the type to turn down a gift of a million dollars from a Christian, yet accept a empty can of beans from an atheist, now that's what I call true reasoning in the way of cutting off your nose to spite your face.

GC

You genuinely don't get it do you.

A million dollars is not on offer but, if it were from a Christian it would be on condition of accepting an eternity of servitude in a celestial North Korea.

Servitude? What am I saying? You're not getting paid. You can't leave without fear of repercussions. Let me correct that statement:

A million dollars is not on offer but, if it were from a Christian it would be on condition of accepting an eternity of slavery in a celestial North Korea.

So - where's that can of beans?
Kuusi palaa, ja on viimeinen kerta kun annan vaimoni laittaa jouluvalot!
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#34
RE: To those who believe in Heaven and hell
(November 9, 2013 at 3:25 am)Godschild Wrote:
(November 8, 2013 at 8:15 pm)freedomfromfallacy Wrote: @GC,

My wife is a Christian. Do I get carry-over salvation by marriage association?

Nope.

GC

1 Corinthians 7:12-14
New International Version (NIV)

12 To the rest I say this (I, not the Lord): If any brother has a wife who is not a believer and she is willing to live with him, he must not divorce her. 13 And if a woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is willing to live with her, she must not divorce him. 14 For the unbelieving husband has been sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife has been sanctified through her believing husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy.
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#35
RE: To those who believe in Heaven and hell
So, all this hoo ha about having to accept Jesus into your heart to get into heaven can be walked around as long as you marry a believer? Heaven's 'getting in' policy is about as good and well enforced as America's.
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#36
RE: To those who believe in Heaven and hell
(November 9, 2013 at 9:44 am)catfish Wrote: 1 Corinthians 7:12-14
New International Version (NIV)

12 To the rest I say this (I, not the Lord): If any brother has a wife who is not a believer and she is willing to live with him, he must not divorce her. 13 And if a woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is willing to live with her, she must not divorce him. 14 For the unbelieving husband has been sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife has been sanctified through her believing husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy.

Wow, so it looks like the best thing for the loving christians to do would be to prostitute themselves in those 1 day marriages that are so popular in Sunni islam. One sanctification per booty call. Which churches have the hottest gullible women?
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#37
RE: To those who believe in Heaven and hell
(November 9, 2013 at 10:16 am)Brakeman Wrote:
(November 9, 2013 at 9:44 am)catfish Wrote: 1 Corinthians 7:12-14
New International Version (NIV)

12 To the rest I say this (I, not the Lord): If any brother has a wife who is not a believer and she is willing to live with him, he must not divorce her. 13 And if a woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is willing to live with her, she must not divorce him. 14 For the unbelieving husband has been sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife has been sanctified through her believing husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy.

Wow, so it looks like the best thing for the loving christians to do would be to prostitute themselves in those 1 day marriages that are so popular in Sunni islam. One sanctification per booty call. Which churches have the hottest gullible women?

I'm not even going to bother pointing out what is wrong with your logic, have fun. Blank

(November 9, 2013 at 9:58 am)ToriJ Wrote: So, all this hoo ha about having to accept Jesus into your heart to get into heaven can be walked around as long as you marry a believer? Heaven's 'getting in' policy is about as good and well enforced as America's.

Everyone makes it, don't you read the Bible?
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#38
RE: To those who believe in Heaven and hell
(November 9, 2013 at 10:28 am)catfish Wrote:
(November 9, 2013 at 10:16 am)Brakeman Wrote: Wow, so it looks like the best thing for the loving christians to do would be to prostitute themselves in those 1 day marriages that are so popular in Sunni islam. One sanctification per booty call. Which churches have the hottest gullible women?

I'm not even going to bother pointing out what is wrong with your logic, have fun. Blank

Why thank you! I will. It is such a blast mocking the stupid things christians believe in. The only downside is that we go through a lot of keyboards from spewing our drinks in laughter.
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#39
RE: To those who believe in Heaven and hell
Not sure what's troubling you, CF. We were responding to the verse itself not you specifically.
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#40
RE: To those who believe in Heaven and hell
(November 9, 2013 at 10:28 am)catfish Wrote: Everyone makes it, don't you read the Bible?

That sucks.

I guess that 'sanctified' husband or wife shtick was extraneous then. Makes me wonder about the children of unsanctified parents, too, depending.

Your cherry picking/version of understanding never fails to amuse.
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