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Challenging the Atheist belief
#91
RE: Challenging the Atheist belief
Sexual pleasure from intelligence, huh!

Please explain the intelligence behind paedophilia to me.
Kuusi palaa, ja on viimeinen kerta kun annan vaimoni laittaa jouluvalot!
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#92
RE: Challenging the Atheist belief
(November 26, 2013 at 3:26 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote:
(November 26, 2013 at 3:24 pm)TheBeardedDude Wrote: Would a more intelligent form of reproduction not simply be budding or asexual reproduction?

Not unless we were programmed to mutate enough to be different genetically from whoever we budded off from. Asexual reproduction leads to homogenized genetic susceptible to diseases. That's why bananas and apples are sprayed to hell. They reproduce asexually.

There are plenty of species that reproduce aseuxally that have found ways around the genetic homogeneity (such as lateral gene transfer and of course, you still have mutations).
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#93
RE: Challenging the Atheist belief
(November 26, 2013 at 3:29 pm)Natedeezy Wrote: And your example of love isn't real love.

Don't dictate to me what love is, you pernicious little toad.
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#94
RE: Challenging the Atheist belief
(November 26, 2013 at 3:29 pm)Natedeezy Wrote: And your example of love isn't real love. Real love is unconditional, love as most people describe and understand it today is very much attached to an understanding of the mind. Such as I love them, but only if they function within the conditions I've named. If you are in a "loving" relationship and they cheat on you, that love can easily turn to hate, and so you can see it's not real love, as real love is unconditional. Is it possible to love someone unconditionally? I'd argue yes, and it is only the mind that tells you differently. It's ultimately a choice, which is the beauty of life, we choose how we live it.

What is your evidence that this "real love," as you put it, exists?
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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#95
RE: Challenging the Atheist belief
(November 26, 2013 at 3:33 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote:
(November 26, 2013 at 3:29 pm)Natedeezy Wrote: And your example of love isn't real love.

Don't dictate to me what love is, you pernicious little toad.

Lol

You are completely at the grasp of your ego, can't you see that only the ego would defend its right to be miserable?

Isn't it possible to see that you are completely at the mercy of the external world. I say something you disagree with and and you get angry, it's conditioning, what is the benefit to you to let the external world effect your inner state? The world is always changing and so your state is always at the mercy of an unpredictable world. Can't you see that there's another way? Or is your ego so strongly rooted that this isn't something it would consider. Instead, it defends it's state as if there couldn't possibly be another way, defending it's misery.
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#96
RE: Challenging the Atheist belief
"Lol" you've fallen down the Deepak Chopra hole.

No one who has felt real love of any sort calls unconditional love the only kind of love.
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#97
RE: Challenging the Atheist belief
(November 26, 2013 at 3:29 pm)Natedeezy Wrote: Not intelligence in the sense of being intellectual, but intelligence that exists within life, more so of a rule.

And your example of love isn't real love. Real love is unconditional, love as most people describe and understand it today is very much attached to an understanding of the mind. Such as I love them, but only if they function within the conditions I've named. If you are in a "loving" relationship and they cheat on you, that love can easily turn to hate, and so you can see it's not real love, as real love is unconditional. Is it possible to love someone unconditionally? I'd argue yes, and it is only the mind that tells you differently. It's ultimately a choice, which is the beauty of life, we choose how we live it.

Just as if someone came and insulted you, although your conditioned mind might try to pull you into a state that you've understood to be correct for the situation, such as anger, it is ultimately a choice. You could choose to step back and not let what the person said or did effect you and love them either way. Most people live entirely in the state of their conditioned mind, which they think to be who they are and they are in control. But you can easily see is actually not a choice but a conditioning. There is no benefit to you by getting mad, yet people do it and it makes them feel rage inside, which isn't a pleasant state, even though some egos in here might say it is in spite, but really it's not. The only REAL joy in life is in a state of love, but again, not as most understand it. This is hard to explain, because it is a feeling, it'd be like trying to explain love to someone whose never felt it, which is impossible to comprehend through understanding with the mind unless you've experienced it.

I get mad when I read people telling me what I do and don't believe.

Just because you chose to love people that hate you for this doesn't make you any less of a wanker.
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#98
RE: Challenging the Atheist belief
(November 26, 2013 at 3:29 pm)Natedeezy Wrote: Such as I love them, but only if they function within the conditions I've named. If you are in a "loving" relationship and they cheat on you, that love can easily turn to hate, and so you can see it's not real love, as real love is unconditional.
You don't really love someone if you don't let them cheat on you?
(November 26, 2013 at 3:29 pm)Natedeezy Wrote: There is no benefit to you by getting mad, yet people do it and it makes them feel rage inside, which isn't a pleasant state, even though some egos in here might say it is in spite, but really it's not.
Being harassed isn't pleasant either. Just taking it isn't going to help, you might even embolden them. Not that I'm one to talk...I have no spine.
(November 26, 2013 at 3:29 pm)Natedeezy Wrote: The only REAL joy in life is in a state of love
And I should believe you why? I have always had a problem with so called unconditional love. You mean if that person became a serial killer you would still treat them with affection?
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#99
RE: Challenging the Atheist belief
(November 26, 2013 at 3:36 pm)Natedeezy Wrote: You are completely at the grasp of your ego, can't you see that only the ego would defend its right to be miserable?

Ahh...I see. You're one of those.

Oh, well. Carry on. Reality will be waiting for you if you choose to seek it.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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(November 26, 2013 at 3:29 pm)max-greece Wrote: Sexual pleasure from intelligence, huh!
Whoever designed my vibrator is a bloody genius.
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