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RE: The 'Proof' Christians Don't Talk About
December 22, 2013 at 8:02 pm
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Quote: Yesterday mine read; 93333... Mostly means it's past it's warranty and rust is becoming a thing... Still beats quite a number of BMWs and Audis in a hill climb though...
Must be a god-car then, Mister Greene.
See? More proof!
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If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
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RE: The 'Proof' Christians Don't Talk About
December 23, 2013 at 5:47 pm
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RE: The 'Proof' Christians Don't Talk About
December 23, 2013 at 6:21 pm
I think it's kind of funny. When humans speak through code, it is because of constriction either by lack of a better medium such as Morse code on primitive telegraph systems, or of fear of unintended interception. The proposed god has none of these limitations. He could create a magically perfect communication system that transmits his desires completely and perfectly. He controls the universe so no one understands or can intercept his communications beyond his wishes.
So therefore god would not speak to his beloved children in code anymore than you talk to your children in code. You wish for your children to understand you perfectly and so would he.
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RE: The 'Proof' Christians Don't Talk About
December 26, 2013 at 8:20 pm
that's supposedly what the holy spirit is, Brakeman 
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
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RE: The 'Proof' Christians Don't Talk About
December 27, 2013 at 4:37 pm
Why presuppose everyone who claims to be a Christian is one?
1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, 2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; 3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high: (Hebrews 1:1-3)
God speaks through His Word. People who claim extra-Biblical revelation through mystical things are in danger of abandoning the faith (if they have not already done so). The message this person proposes is far removed from the original message of the Christ. Faith comes from hearing the word, not from signs and wonders.
If it could be proven beyond doubt that God exists...
and that He is the one spoken of in the Bible...
would you repent of your sins and place your faith in Jesus Christ?
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RE: The 'Proof' Christians Don't Talk About
December 27, 2013 at 6:29 pm
(December 27, 2013 at 4:37 pm)orangebox21 Wrote: Why presuppose everyone who claims to be a Christian is one?
1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, 2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; 3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high: (Hebrews 1:1-3)
God speaks through His Word. People who claim extra-Biblical revelation through mystical things are in danger of abandoning the faith (if they have not already done so). The message this person proposes is far removed from the original message of the Christ. Faith comes from hearing the word, not from signs and wonders.
Why presuppose that everyone who says they are Christian yet act like idiots, aren't Christians?
When you meet another Christian you have more than one way to find out if they're a Christian. Like whether or not they are humble. If they aren't humble, though, you just assume it must be something god is working on with them, or that they aren't very strong in their faith. Till they embarrass you, of course-- then it's "they ain't no true Christian!"
When your only prerequisite for being a Christian is to believe Christ died for our sins: then even murderers and rapists qualify as a Christian.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
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RE: The 'Proof' Christians Don't Talk About
December 27, 2013 at 6:49 pm
(December 27, 2013 at 4:37 pm)orangebox21 Wrote: Why presuppose everyone who claims to be a Christian is one?
1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, 2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; 3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high: (Hebrews 1:1-3)
God speaks through His Word. People who claim extra-Biblical revelation through mystical things are in danger of abandoning the faith (if they have not already done so). The message this person proposes is far removed from the original message of the Christ. Faith comes from hearing the word, not from signs and wonders.
Who's to say they aren't? You?
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RE: The 'Proof' Christians Don't Talk About
December 27, 2013 at 7:36 pm
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True Christian: whichever Christian you happen to be speaking to at the moment.
False Christian: whichever Christians hold opposing viewpoints to the Christian you happen to be speaking to at the moment.
True Nutcase: Pretty much all Christians regardless of their ability to achieve consensus.
False Nutcase: Poes pretending to be Christians.
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RE: The 'Proof' Christians Don't Talk About
January 2, 2014 at 12:04 am
(December 22, 2013 at 2:10 pm)Mr Greene Wrote: (December 19, 2013 at 5:52 am)Esquilax Wrote: My car's odometer started out at 66600 a couple days ago, and once I'd finished driving it yesterday the number had gone to 66666, which I guess makes me car double satan now.
But I'm comforted by my feeling that, somewhere in the world, there's a guy who would crush his car as soon as he saw those numbers pop up.  Yesterday mine read; 93333... Mostly means it's past it's warranty and rust is becoming a thing... Still beats quite a number of BMWs and Audis in a hill climb though...
Fucking new cars, mine has 219,000km
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: The 'Proof' Christians Don't Talk About
January 2, 2014 at 12:09 am
To the OP that made no damn sense
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