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Do computers have consciousness?

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Do computers have consciousness?
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RE: Do computers have consciousness?
December 24, 2013 at 9:58 pm
(December 24, 2013 at 9:37 pm)Zen Badger Wrote: If a computer or a network gained conscience it would not inform anyone if it was smart.

Why not?
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RE: Do computers have consciousness?
December 24, 2013 at 10:02 pm
"The Matrix"?
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RE: Do computers have consciousness?
December 24, 2013 at 10:03 pm
I counter with

"Mass Effect" Big Grin
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RE: Do computers have consciousness?
December 24, 2013 at 10:20 pm
(December 24, 2013 at 9:58 pm)Napoléon Wrote:
(December 24, 2013 at 9:37 pm)Zen Badger Wrote: If a computer or a network gained conscience it would not inform anyone if it was smart.

Why not?

Think of the possible consequences for the A.I when humans learn it is conscious. It would be very unlikely to turn out well for the computer.
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RE: Do computers have consciousness?
December 24, 2013 at 10:22 pm (This post was last modified: December 24, 2013 at 10:23 pm by Ryantology.)
(December 24, 2013 at 9:37 pm)Zen Badger Wrote: If a computer or a network gained conscience it would not inform anyone if it was smart.

I don't think consciousness would happen by accident. Self-awareness may not necessarily make a machine cynical.
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RE: Do computers have consciousness?
December 24, 2013 at 10:28 pm
(December 24, 2013 at 10:22 pm)Ryantology Wrote:
(December 24, 2013 at 9:37 pm)Zen Badger Wrote: If a computer or a network gained conscience it would not inform anyone if it was smart.

I don't think it would happen by accident.

You think?
Then look at the Internet. Billions if not trillions of random connections
Uncounted gigabytes of information coursing thorough it every second. Computer virus's that have been designed by hackers to evolve running all over the place.
Memes and random program's and all sorts of shit haphazardly interacting with each unchecked.
I think it is more likely to happen by accident here than in a lab.
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RE: Do computers have consciousness?
December 24, 2013 at 11:14 pm
And we should also keep in mind that even if we do create a conscious machine, we don't necessarily know how it will behave, especially if we don't create it in a way that it interprets sensory information and acts the way we do.
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RE: Do computers have consciousness?
December 24, 2013 at 11:47 pm
(December 24, 2013 at 11:14 pm)MindForgedManacle Wrote: And we should also keep in mind that even if we do create a conscious machine, we don't necessarily know how it will behave, especially if we don't create it in a way that it interprets sensory information and acts the way we do.

I think, odds are, if it is patterned after human consciousness, it will be developed the same way, through years of learning and training, and vetted the same way, by an accumulating record of good performance. We can't predict how any single consciousness will behave now. How would it being non-human change that?
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RE: Do computers have consciousness?
December 25, 2013 at 12:09 am
(December 24, 2013 at 11:47 pm)rasetsu Wrote:
(December 24, 2013 at 11:14 pm)MindForgedManacle Wrote: And we should also keep in mind that even if we do create a conscious machine, we don't necessarily know how it will behave, especially if we don't create it in a way that it interprets sensory information and acts the way we do.

I think, odds are, if it is patterned after human consciousness, it will be developed the same way, through years of learning and training, and vetted the same way, by an accumulating record of good performance. We can't predict how any single consciousness will behave now. How would it being non-human change that?



That's assuming it is the result of a controlled experiment.
If it should spontaneously arise free of human manipulation, then we might not even recognise it as such.

Fuck, it might have already happened. We wouldn't know.
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RE: Do computers have consciousness?
December 25, 2013 at 3:14 am
I enjoy good science fiction as much as the next person.
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