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RE: The Bible. All or nothing?
January 12, 2014 at 5:03 pm
(January 12, 2014 at 4:51 pm)truthBtold Wrote: Hmmm. I started this one... dont u see ... silly rabbit!!!! And il start plenty more....join in anytime
No, I know, and I understand that you want people to participate in your threads, but next time, perhaps keep the problems with the bible in one, instead of separating each and single one (and Loki knows there's material for several!)?
And what do you mean silly? I'm not silly! (*Kay is blatantly lying*)
When I was young, there was a god with infinite power protecting me. Is there anyone else who felt that way? And was sure about it? but the first time I fell in love, I was thrown down - or maybe I broke free - and I bade farewell to God and became human. Now I don't have God's protection, and I walk on the ground without wings, but I don't regret this hardship. I want to live as a person. -Arina Tanemura
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RE: The Bible. All or nothing?
January 12, 2014 at 5:04 pm
(This post was last modified: January 12, 2014 at 5:06 pm by truthBtold.)
(January 12, 2014 at 4:24 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I tend to agree. While the Bible is clearly not factually accurate (bats are not birds, bushes don't speak with human voice), there are bits and bobs of it while, not unique or original to the Bible, are clearly good advice:
-Treat people fairly.
-Help the poor.
-Keep an eye on your neighbour's goods.
-Gain understanding.
-Don't forsake your friends.
I don't think it matters that most of these and the other worthwhile bits are - in context - to get one in good with God. They, in and of themselves, are good advice and to reject them simple because they appear in the Bible, is, well...nutty.
Boru
The first 4 of the ten commandments has to do with kissing gods ass. Then comes the good stuff... where is the priority?
(January 12, 2014 at 5:03 pm)Kayenneh Wrote: (January 12, 2014 at 4:51 pm)truthBtold Wrote: Hmmm. I started this one... dont u see ... silly rabbit!!!! And il start plenty more....join in anytime
No, I know, and I understand that you want people to participate in your threads, but next time, perhaps keep the problems with the bible in one, instead of separating each and single one (and Loki knows there's material for several!)?
And what do you mean silly? I'm not silly! (*Kay is blatantly lying*)
OH SNAP!!
(January 12, 2014 at 5:04 pm)truthBtold Wrote: (January 12, 2014 at 4:24 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I tend to agree. While the Bible is clearly not factually accurate (bats are not birds, bushes don't speak with human voice), there are bits and bobs of it while, not unique or original to the Bible, are clearly good advice:
-Treat people fairly.
-Help the poor.
-Keep an eye on your neighbour's goods.
-Gain understanding.
-Don't forsake your friends.
I don't think it matters that most of these and the other worthwhile bits are - in context - to get one in good with God. They, in and of themselves, are good advice and to reject them simple because they appear in the Bible, is, well...nutty.
Boru
The first 4 of the ten commandments has to do with kissing gods ass. Then comes the good stuff... where is the priority?
(January 12, 2014 at 5:03 pm)Kayenneh Wrote: No, I know, and I understand that you want people to participate in your threads, but next time, perhaps keep the problems with the bible in one, instead of separating each and single one (and Loki knows there's material for several!)?
And what do you mean silly? I'm not silly! (*Kay is blatantly lying*)
OH SNAP!!
This forum is hard to navigate.... like the bible.
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RE: The Bible. All or nothing?
January 12, 2014 at 5:13 pm
(January 12, 2014 at 4:38 pm)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: The bible is neither a history book nor a science book.
To sane people, yes. If only the nutballs understood that.
You apparently have far more sane Christians in the UK than we do here.
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RE: The Bible. All or nothing?
January 12, 2014 at 5:17 pm
I would expect that a message delivered by proxy from a real god would lack any error. Even the slightest, smallest, most insignificant error brings down the whole thing like a jenga tower.
I've said it before, the biggest boner Christians made in the entire scheme was trying to win the spiritual dick-measuring contest by asserting perfection and ultimate qualities. If God was described as flawed but learning, the entire thing would make a million times more sense and his crimes would be forgivable.
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RE: The Bible. All or nothing?
January 12, 2014 at 5:20 pm
(This post was last modified: January 12, 2014 at 5:20 pm by Kayenneh.)
(January 12, 2014 at 5:04 pm)truthBtold Wrote: This forum is hard to navigate.... like the bible.
Have you tried AF.com? Now that's one hard forum to navigate! 
When I was young, there was a god with infinite power protecting me. Is there anyone else who felt that way? And was sure about it? but the first time I fell in love, I was thrown down - or maybe I broke free - and I bade farewell to God and became human. Now I don't have God's protection, and I walk on the ground without wings, but I don't regret this hardship. I want to live as a person. -Arina Tanemura
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RE: The Bible. All or nothing?
January 12, 2014 at 5:34 pm
(January 12, 2014 at 5:17 pm)(╯°◊°）╯︵ ══╬ Wrote: I would expect that a message delivered by proxy from a real god would lack any error. Even the slightest, smallest, most insignificant error brings down the whole thing like a jenga tower.
I've said it before, the biggest boner Christians made in the entire scheme was trying to win the spiritual dick-measuring contest by asserting perfection and ultimate qualities. If God was described as flawed but learning, the entire thing would make a million times more sense and his crimes would be forgivable.
I agree with this. If people said yeah, our deity isn't perfect, and he apologizes for some of the horrible things he did, but he's learning and becoming a nicer, more responsible person. I mean, he made a world, with one sentient species on it, and it didn't go exactly the way he wanted, but it's all a learning experience for everyone.
He'd be far more relatable, and understandable. Like a real parent that thinks he knows exactly how to raise a child before he has one, then when he does, he realizes just how hard it can be. Instead we get this idea that he's perfect and unchanging, and any problem between him and you is all your fault, because you're the flawed creature. He's not perfect, and apparently he isn't unchanging either. Jesus supposedly is god, yet he has different ideas of how people should live their lives.
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RE: The Bible. All or nothing?
January 12, 2014 at 5:51 pm
(January 12, 2014 at 5:34 pm)Chad32 Wrote: (January 12, 2014 at 5:17 pm)(╯°◊°）╯︵ ══╬ Wrote: I would expect that a message delivered by proxy from a real god would lack any error. Even the slightest, smallest, most insignificant error brings down the whole thing like a jenga tower.
I've said it before, the biggest boner Christians made in the entire scheme was trying to win the spiritual dick-measuring contest by asserting perfection and ultimate qualities. If God was described as flawed but learning, the entire thing would make a million times more sense and his crimes would be forgivable.
I agree with this. If people said yeah, our deity isn't perfect, and he apologizes for some of the horrible things he did, but he's learning and becoming a nicer, more responsible person. I mean, he made a world, with one sentient species on it, and it didn't go exactly the way he wanted, but it's all a learning experience for everyone.
He'd be far more relatable, and understandable. Like a real parent that thinks he knows exactly how to raise a child before he has one, then when he does, he realizes just how hard it can be. Instead we get this idea that he's perfect and unchanging, and any problem between him and you is all your fault, because you're the flawed creature. He's not perfect, and apparently he isn't unchanging either. Jesus supposedly is god, yet he has different ideas of how people should live their lives.
Ever heard of Greg Boyd?
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RE: The Bible. All or nothing?
January 12, 2014 at 5:54 pm
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Not really, but I'll look him up.
Edit: He seems like one of the better christian. Believing that Jesus did not seek power and control, but self sacrificial love. Still, if you believe he's part of Yahweh, who obviously seek control, there's a bit of conflict there. Or he's just working for a guy that demands servitude because he's powerful. If Jesus really wanted to help, one thing he should have done is separate himself from Yahweh as much as possible.
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RE: The Bible. All or nothing?
January 12, 2014 at 6:10 pm
Wouldn't make no never mind to me if they were not claiming that their doorstop of a book was inerrant and their god perfect. As to why, he has done too damned much that is so off the mark for civilized behavior to be tolerated. If he does exist then he is not even close to being deserving of worship. 
“To terrify children with the image of hell, to consider women an inferior creation—is that good for the world?”
― Christopher Hitchens
"That fear first created the gods is perhaps as true as anything so brief could be on so great a subject". - George Santayana
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RE: The Bible. All or nothing?
January 12, 2014 at 6:27 pm
Always assuming of course that everything written about him is true...
"Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken."
Sith code
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