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Debate with a Christian
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 (March 9, 2014 at 1:37 am)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: I think if Christians were to treat the stories as allegories of a greater truth regarding humans, their relationships to one another, and the potential realities we can create in our one lifetime on Earth, I could get down with it. Who knows, that may have been the original intention behind Jesus' actions and words. ^ Exactly.  (March 9, 2014 at 1:37 am)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: Jesus as depicted in the New Testament wasn't a real person. He was an imaginary character created by Paul. Paul's disciples wrote all of the stories about the Jesus character. That's one reason the Jesus character has different personalities.  
H0ary H0bbit Religious Views: “Never to suffer would never to have been blessed.” - Edgar Allan Poe RE: Debate with a Christian
March 9, 2014 at 3:56 am
(This post was last modified: March 9, 2014 at 3:57 am by fr0d0.)
Well the thread started with everyone criticising the OP for not suggesting a topic.
Now that the OP has decided on a topic, no one will take him up on it. All everyone can do now is suggest other topics. Something they refused to do in the beginning. Do I take it that the suggested topic is unbeatable to all potential opponents here on AF? If so, I'd like to congratulate discipulus on his first victory. Very well done sir! (March 9, 2014 at 3:56 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Well the thread started with everyone criticising the OP for not suggesting a topic. Maybe he will win a dozen more the same way.
H0ary H0bbit Religious Views: “Never to suffer would never to have been blessed.” - Edgar Allan Poe
Cool. Seems I was mistaken in thinking that people had serious counter arguments!
 (March 9, 2014 at 3:56 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Well the thread started with everyone criticising the OP for not suggesting a topic. What was the title? Don't want to trawl the whole thread.
"Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken." Sith code  (March 9, 2014 at 3:56 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Do I take it that the suggested topic is unbeatable to all potential opponents here on AF? If so, I'd like to congratulate discipulus on his first victory. Very well done sir! Are you serious? The guy posits an unverifiable question and then seems intent on using the thing that makes the claim to verify the claim, and you take people's disinterest in debating circular logic as some kind of dearth of a counter argument? The only counter argument you need for the claim that the gospels are true, and therefore Jesus, is "that's stupid."
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Found it.
Are the New Testament writings fiction? I'm happy to do that one with you! Be an interesting exploration.
"Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken." Sith code
H0ary H0bbit Religious Views: “Never to suffer would never to have been blessed.” - Edgar Allan Poe (March 8, 2014 at 4:49 pm)discipulus Wrote:(March 8, 2014 at 12:20 pm)Deidre32 Wrote: Using it to argue historical accounts of Jesus will be an effort in futility because I don't value the Bible as a reliable source of history. The subject of the proposed debate
Yep. Happy with that. Sounds like fun.
Cos I don't think they are.
"Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken." Sith code |
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