All Hail the Second Amendment

[KUSA]

but handguns and shotguns seem much more effective in these instances.

Why?

[Chas]

The question I guess is do you support the ban of all semi auto rifles?

That's what I'm trying to process. I am definitely not convinced that semi-autos are necessary for civilian home ownership. The discussion has progressed into defining the difference between military weapons, semi-autos, and assault rifles, which seems to be a distractor from trying to figure this out.

I know it might sound strange, but my experience in the Air Force is actually one of the main reasons I'm not sure that rifles of much use in a person's home. I agree with stand your ground laws and castle laws, but handguns and shotguns seem much more effective in these instances.

I'm also a fan of concealed carry, as a law abiding citizen can surreptitiously get the drop on a trouble maker.

My rifles are stored in a safe in my home. I don't fire them in my home.

A rifle would not be my first choice of weapon in a confined area, but a carbine length AR with a collapsible stock might be a good choice.

However, let's say I need to engage multiple targets outside my house, a semi-auto rifle would be my first choice.

However, a semi-automatic rifle is appropriate for hunting. The first shot may miss or only wound the animal and a quick follow-up shot is necessary on game animals.

Here is a semi-automatic hunting rifle.

[My imaginary friend is GOD]

This thread:

1. What I thought it was: some fucking gun nut on the internet saying, "OMFG ALL HAIL THE SECOND AMENDMENT!"
2. What it was: Min being FUCKING HILARIOUS.
3. Me right now: OMG THIS THREAD DOESN'T COMPLETELY SUCK, THIS THREAD IS COMPLETELY FUCKING HILARIOUS!
4. YES!

LOL!

[Bad Writer]

but handguns and shotguns seem much more effective in these instances.

Why?

Chas pretty much summed it up for us.

So for people living in small houses or apartment complexes, would there be a need for rifles of any kind?

Also, when there are bans on certain types of weaponry, I'm all for grandfather clauses. I'm guessing the implementation of a registry would be the antithesis of that, right?

[Gish]

Why?

Chas pretty much summed it up for us.

So for people living in small houses or apartment complexes, would there be a need for rifles of any kind?

Also, when there are bans on certain types of weaponry, I'm all for grandfather clauses. I'm guessing the implementation of a registry would be the antithesis of that, right?

Actually, an AR-15 SBR loaded with <=55g varmint rounds would be perfect for people living in apartment complexes. Light .223 loads fragment, which prevents over-penetration.

[KUSA]

Chas pretty much summed it up for us.

So for people living in small houses or apartment complexes, would there be a need for rifles of any kind?

Also, when there are bans on certain types of weaponry, I'm all for grandfather clauses. I'm guessing the implementation of a registry would be the antithesis of that, right?

Actually, an AR-15 SBR loaded with <=55g varmint rounds would be perfect for people living in apartment complexes. Light .223 loads fragment, which prevents over-penetration.

Indoors I use the 60 grain Hornady Vmax that I handload.

Now for outside I handload some 77 grain Sierra Matchkings in front of 24.3 grains of Ramshot TAC. Basically it's a MK262 clone.

[My imaginary friend is GOD]

Hey, you know what? All girls carrying guns are incredibly sexy. Moving on now.

Hmm... pretty sure I made this post just for Losty. To Losty, from me:

[KUSA]

Hey, you know what? All girls carrying guns are incredibly sexy. Moving on now.

Hmm... pretty sure I made this post just for Losty. :D To Losty, from me: :heart:

It gives me a boner every time.

[Gish]

Chas pretty much summed it up for us.

So for people living in small houses or apartment complexes, would there be a need for rifles of any kind?

Also, when there are bans on certain types of weaponry, I'm all for grandfather clauses. I'm guessing the implementation of a registry would be the antithesis of that, right?

Actually, an AR-15 SBR loaded with <=55g varmint rounds would be perfect for people living in apartment complexes. Light .223 bullets fragment, which prevents over-penetration.

Shit, I accidentally double-posted when I tried to edit my post. Can this be removed?

[KUSA]

So for people living in small houses or apartment complexes, would there be a need for rifles of any kind?

A varmint round out of a rifle in 5.56/.223 is going to penetrate less than a lot of handgun rounds or a shotgun with buckshot.

Also the hand gun is so hard for most people to shoot accurately. I have competed in quite a few tactical competitions and the skill level with a hand gun even among my peers is lacking. A lot of folks just miss the target altogether. I have taught many people how to properly shoot a handgun and it is a challenge to get them proficient. I literally know people that can't hit crap past 7 yards. I suppose that matters little in a small room but these same people can shoot lights out with an AR. I like precision shots.

Now don't get me wrong I do like handguns. I am an expert with them and that's not a boastful opinion of mine it is a fact. The thing I like most about handguns are they fit in my pocket better than a long gun.

The shotgun has nothing precision about it. I'd hate to have a shotgun in a hostage situation. Actually I don't even own a shotgun. I have shot plenty of them and they just don't impress me. Sure they have undeniable power but it's a bit too indiscriminate for me.