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RE: The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
March 28, 2014 at 11:19 pm
(This post was last modified: March 28, 2014 at 11:21 pm by Bob Kelso.)
I'm going to take you seriously for about three minutes of my time, so pay attention.
(March 28, 2014 at 10:39 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: We are reminded of this event every day. Not a day goes by where you don't hear His name mentioned, hear a song praising Him, drive by a church, see someone wearing a cross, or hear a verse from the Bible.
Is there a point you're getting at?
(March 28, 2014 at 10:39 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: Jesus predicted His death and resurrection while He was alive. He tomb was empty on three days after His death. He appeared to His disciples. These men's lives were changed and God used them to change the world. Paul and 500 others have seen the risen Christ. The early church grew greatly even with terrible persecution speaks of the power of this Truth. *bolded by me*
For the parts I put in bold (oh look, that's most of your post ) you need to bring some evidence to the table, and no, your bible doesn't count.
(March 28, 2014 at 10:39 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: Greatest evidence is the transformation of millions of lives of born again believers.
The same could be said of any other religion, this is not evidence.
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RE: The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
March 28, 2014 at 11:20 pm
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RE: The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
March 28, 2014 at 11:34 pm
(March 28, 2014 at 11:10 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: (March 28, 2014 at 11:03 pm)sven Wrote: Its hard to respond to something that isn't a question.
But all right. The second paragraph I quoted. On what evidence do you claim this?
(Hint: millions of people who share an opinion is not evidence)
The 12 gave up their lives for what they believed in
This is poinless. You seem to believe in the bible -- the veracity of which began to be questioned by christian intellectuals some 150 years ago. You must have missed one and a half century of biblical and theological discourse. Also, you do not seem to understand what real evidence is.
Since this is an atheist forum, most people here are atheists. Many of them are very smart people. You trying to discuss or argue with them (or even just me, for that matter) would be the forum equivalent of a third grader climbing into an MMA cage to face an adult who is an athlete and a trained killer.
Not interested in this... Sorry.
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RE: The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
March 28, 2014 at 11:38 pm
Quote:We are reminded of this event every day. Not a day goes by where you don't hear His name mentioned, hear a song praising Him, drive by a church, see someone wearing a cross, or hear a verse from the Bible.
Yeah...and I wish you fuckers would shut up about it because its all bullshit. None of it ever happened....or at least, you have no evidence that anything remotely like it happened.
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RE: The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
March 28, 2014 at 11:40 pm
(March 28, 2014 at 10:39 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: Greatest evidence is the transformation of millions of lives of born again believers.
And you wonder why we're not persuaded.
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RE: The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
March 28, 2014 at 11:42 pm
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RE: The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
March 29, 2014 at 1:06 am
As with Aral, I'm going to force myself to take you seriously for a few minutes. I don't know why I do this but I guess it's a compulsion.
(March 28, 2014 at 10:39 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: Jesus predicted His death and resurrection while He was alive. Uh huh, that's the story, all right.
And Luke Skywalker blew up the Death Star.
Quote:He tomb was empty on three days after His death.
Not exactly. Jesus supposedly died on Good Friday and, according to John, rose on Sunday before dawn, so that's about a day and a half, not three days.
Quote:He appeared to His disciples.
And each Gospel has it's own story.
Quote:These men's lives were changed and God used them to change the world.
Uh Huh. That's the story, all right.
And Spiderman got his super powers from a radioactive spider.
Quote:Paul and 500 others have seen the risen Christ.
Strange how the Book of Acts numbers the Christians at 120 (Acts 1:15)
Quote:The early church grew greatly even with terrible persecution speaks of the power of this Truth.
Uh huh, that's the story, all right.
And James Bond is always able to stop the diabolical villains in spite of being put into an unnecessarily complex and slow killing mechanism.
Quote:Greatest evidence is the transformation of millions of lives of born again believers.
Actually, that's not evidence at all.
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RE: The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
March 29, 2014 at 1:27 am
Rev, do you have any hope of being taken seriously at all?
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RE: The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
March 29, 2014 at 1:33 am
(March 28, 2014 at 10:39 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: We are reminded of this event every day. Not a day goes by where you don't hear His name mentioned, hear a song praising Him, drive by a church, see someone wearing a cross, or hear a verse from the Bible.
Jesus predicted His death and resurrection while He was alive. He tomb was empty on three days after His death. He appeared to His disciples. These men's lives were changed and God used them to change the world. Paul and 500 others have seen the risen Christ. The early church grew greatly even with terrible persecution speaks of the power of this Truth. Greatest evidence is the transformation of millions of lives of born again believers.
You cannot accurately describe something as a prediction if the event was in the past. All of your 'predictions' were history, real or not, when the Gospels were written.
Now, let's quickly explore a prediction that didn't happen....the return of Christ. Even a casual reading of scripture reveals that Jesus was to have returned in short order, but it didn't happen or it went unnoticed. Sometimes you have to eat desert and admit to yourself that your date isn't going to show up.
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RE: The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave
March 29, 2014 at 2:00 am
(March 28, 2014 at 11:10 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: (March 28, 2014 at 11:03 pm)sven Wrote: Its hard to respond to something that isn't a question.
But all right. The second paragraph I quoted. On what evidence do you claim this?
(Hint: millions of people who share an opinion is not evidence)
The 12 gave up their lives for what they believed in
So Islam must be even truer because 16 of them gave up their lives on September 11th. The biggest difference between the 2 being that we know September 11 actually fucking happened.
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