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Challenging Affordable Care Act--religious freedom?
March 29, 2014 at 12:44 pm
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/2...1W20140325
I haven't been following this story 'too' intently, but ran across this article. I have mixed feelings about all of this. I'm no longer religious and while I classify myself as an atheist, is it right to bestow MY views onto religious people? Should all corporations, regardless of their religious affiliations, be required to pay for contraception under their insurance plans?
Your thoughts/opinions?
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RE: Challenging Affordable Care Act--religious freedom?
March 29, 2014 at 12:58 pm
Yes. Fuck them and their silly gods.
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RE: Challenging Affordable Care Act--religious freedom?
March 29, 2014 at 1:02 pm
(March 29, 2014 at 12:44 pm)Deidre32 Wrote: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/2...1W20140325
I haven't been following this story 'too' intently, but ran across this article. I have mixed feelings about all of this. I'm no longer religious and while I classify myself as an atheist, is it right to bestow MY views onto religious people? Should all corporations, regardless of their religious affiliations, be required to pay for contraception under their insurance plans?
Your thoughts/opinions?
Yes. If you don't want to take proper responsibility for those in your employ you've got not right to own a business.
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RE: Challenging Affordable Care Act--religious freedom?
March 29, 2014 at 1:15 pm
(March 29, 2014 at 12:44 pm)Deidre32 Wrote: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/2...1W20140325
I haven't been following this story 'too' intently, but ran across this article. I have mixed feelings about all of this. I'm no longer religious and while I classify myself as an atheist, is it right to bestow MY views onto religious people? Should all corporations, regardless of their religious affiliations, be required to pay for contraception under their insurance plans?
Your thoughts/opinions?
If employers can pick and choose which bits to follow who knows what else they can object to.
Remember there are some religious sects that do not agree with any level of medical intervention, so contraception could be the thin edge of a very wide wedge.
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RE: Challenging Affordable Care Act--religious freedom?
March 29, 2014 at 1:19 pm
The choice of which professionally recognized medical treatments to be used belongs in the hands of the employee, not the employer.
What's next? Refusing to allow employees to drink, smoke, or wear plaid? That which is not proscribed by law should not be proscribed by an employment contract.
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RE: Challenging Affordable Care Act--religious freedom?
March 29, 2014 at 1:29 pm
It's also the case that people are 'using' religion in order to create a wedge for the case against the affordable care act. When you can say you "believe" that drugs like IUDs and Plan B cause abortions, when it is a verifiable fact that they do no such thing, and you can simply state "Well that's not what I believe," that is scary to me, and should not be tolerated.
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RE: Challenging Affordable Care Act--religious freedom?
March 29, 2014 at 1:32 pm
(March 29, 2014 at 12:44 pm)Deidre32 Wrote: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/2...1W20140325
I haven't been following this story 'too' intently, but ran across this article. I have mixed feelings about all of this. I'm no longer religious and while I classify myself as an atheist, is it right to bestow MY views onto religious people? Should all corporations, regardless of their religious affiliations, be required to pay for contraception under their insurance plans?
Your thoughts/opinions?
Boooh! I clearly think so, judging from the article. Here in Sweden their objections would never fly. I think its bad enough that our state partially sponsors religiously based private schools that ban certain teaching subjects on religious grounds, have an unproportionate amount of bible/koran studies on the schedule, forbid unisex classrooms have strange and unusual forms of punishment, and so on. The law is the law for everyone. Doesn't the US have separation of the church and state?
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RE: Challenging Affordable Care Act--religious freedom?
March 29, 2014 at 1:43 pm
Making religious people provide birth control isn't infringing on their religious freedom. It is infringing on their desire to force their religious morals on others.
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RE: Challenging Affordable Care Act--religious freedom?
March 29, 2014 at 1:51 pm
How come everyone here is smarter than me? 
I think you ALL make outstanding points. Totally agree. I was on the fence, seriously, with this issue, and it bothered me so much. I was viewing it from a religious freedom view...and while I think all religions are unnecessary and nonsensical, would a situation like this be my right to choose for someone else?
But, what you are all saying is that a person's health supercedes that of any religious conviction, and where might this slippery slope end?
Catholics for example teach that a variety of reproductive processes and surgeries are ''mortally sinful,'' and so I could see if religious people win on this front, they can opt out of all procedures that 'go against' their beliefs.
Ugh, what a crazy can of worms that would open up!
Thank you everyone for helping me make sense of all this.
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RE: Challenging Affordable Care Act--religious freedom?
March 29, 2014 at 1:58 pm
Suppose you work for some fuck nut JW who doesn't believe in blood transfusions? Must an employee die because of his employer's superstitions?
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