The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave

[Esquilax]

I am sorry you feel that way. People who really know me might not feel the same way as you do of me. I am not here for me and you could hate me all you want and call me whatever. That doesn't remove you from the fact that the Lord loves all of you and would have you repent and come to Him while there is still time. Not everything can be explained by Science. If the Lord Himself appeared to you I believe you would have trouble believing it. I didn't die for your sins so loath me as you wish.

Oh, get down off your cross, mate.

My point is, you're failing at your stated goal, and you're insulting our intelligence to do it. That's really shitty of you.

Bogus Implausible Bile Luring Egotists?

Big Idiots Buy Ludicrous Effluent.

[Minimalist]

Minimalist Wrote: Yes, but surely they had a fallback position for those occasions where someone invited you to blow the holy ghost out your ass?


I lost you on what you are trying to say.

I wasn't talking to you.

[ShaMan]

I am doing as the Lord is directing me. He has placed a love in my heart for atheists.

I trust that you dearly believe in your God's direction, and I can find no fault in loving those who oppose you. Have peace friend.

[popeyespappy]

I am sorry you feel that way. People who really know me might not feel the same way as you do of me. I am not here for me and you could hate me all you want and call me whatever. That doesn't remove you from the fact that the Lord loves all of you and would have you repent and come to Him while there is still time. Not everything can be explained by Science. If the Lord Himself appeared to you I believe you would have trouble believing it. I didn't die for your sins so loath me as you wish.

My intro thread suggestion for the OP to go peddle his wares in Pyongyang still stands.

[Tonus]

To be perfectly clear, and honest, scientists in general are not attempting to make a claim one way or another in reference to the validity of religion. It is not their job to prove or disprove god so much as it is their job to discover the origin, for lack of a better term first cause, of the universe. It is a fact that science does not have all the answers to all the questions put forth by humanity, though that is not to state science will never discover an answer to any particular question in the future.

I think the simplest way to put it is that science was developed as a method of learning about the world around us. It proved to be more useful than the "take a wild guess" method that humans had used until then, which is likely the method that birthed the first religion. The scientific method of discovery has proven so useful that humans keep applying it to pretty much any question they can think of, and it's got a pretty good track record, such that the "take a wild guess" and "pull an explanation out of your ass" methods have been left by the wayside. Except, of course, as a way of keeping god on life support for the last few centuries.

[LostLocke]

There are more today dying for their Christian faith then when Christians were being thrown to the lions. It is a fact, not in this country of course, but in the third world.

Quantity of death does correlate to quality of subject matter.

Have you gone over all past and present religions to determine how many died for their cause? What about non-religious causes?
Does the fact that hundreds, if not thousands, of Rohhirim died in the fight against Sauron mean that LotR is true?
Something is true or it is false, regardless of whether no one dies for it or millions die for it.

And before you do a "What are the odds all these people would die for a false cause?", it doesn't matter if the cause is the truth or a lie, it only matters if the people sacrificing themselves believes it's true.

[Minimalist]

Oh, please.

It's bad enough that you believe a magic man rose from the dead 2000 years ago, but there are no excuses for believing that bullshit.

There are more today dying for their Christian faith then when Christians were being thrown to the lions. It is a fact, not in this country of course, but in the third world.

More jesus freak bullshit. Read Candida Moss' "The Myth of Persecution" and learn how badly you fools have been conned.

[YahwehIsTheWay]

What is great about the Lord is the love He has for all even those who scorn Him.

Bah! You sissy namby-pamby pseudo-Christian! You think Jesus loves everyone universally, even those who scorn him? Read the blessed Word of Gawd, The Wholly Babble, already! There are a lot more verses than John 3:16!

When I get home, I will school you with specific verses from the Gospels but for now, just consider that all the non-believers and others who go around thinking for themselves will be cast into Hell to be tortured for all eternity, praise the sweet name of Jesus.

If eternal torture is your idea of love, I don't want any love from you.

Dumb ass phony Christian!

[Bob Kelso]

Good, so you're done posting?

I come as an ambassador for Christ. I do not want to offend you but I want to bring the hope I have to you. This hope is based on the truth of Christ and the love he has for mankind.

*bold added by me*

I think it's bloody hilarious how often I hear this line. Let me ask you something Rev;

If your god needs pompous, ignorant, worn-out-platitude-spitting proselytizers such as yourself to get his message out, what does that say about your god?

If your god wants to bring me his love and hope then, as the omniscient/omnipresent/omnipotent bastard he's supposed to be, he knows where to fucking find me.

Now fuck off.

[Fidel_Castronaut]

I am doing as the Lord is directing me. He has placed a love in my heart for atheists.

I trust that you dearly believe in your God's direction, and I can find no fault in loving those who oppose you. Have peace friend.

But that's the point. He preaches love, Jesus and all that bollocks whilst simultaneously holding the belief that he's special ("I come as an ambassador of Christ" - so he thinks he can be his gods mouthpiece) and the rest who don't believe as he does go and burn in a fiery hole for all eternity.

Some 'love', eh?