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The Bible: not a page turner!
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RE: The Bible: not a page turner!
And it's rated R for excessive violence and sexuality.
That's MISTER Godless Vegetarian Tree Hugging Hippie Liberal to you.
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(April 1, 2014 at 5:44 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Maybe we could persuade Quentin Tarantino to do a re-write.

He could make that bastard ROCK!

Boru

When you drove your chariot in my yard did you see a sign that said "Dead Hebrew storage"?
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RE: The Bible: not a page turner!
(April 1, 2014 at 5:29 pm)sven Wrote:


So. My question to christians and de-converts alike: how the heck does one find the strength and energy to read the entire bible? Do/did you find it as boring as I did? How did you find it?

The problem may be that you are not using enough critical analysis and that you haven't read enough of it to understand the questions that you should ask.

For example, the Bible makes a big production about Abraham being the founder. But he was a world-class bastard who had no redeeming qualities.

In Matthew 7:17-20 the Jesus character talks about how bad trees can not bear good fruit. http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?sea...B;CJB;NKJV

Now, given the fact that Abraham was such a rotten and despicable creature, how could anything good come from him?

The Bible presents two sides to every issue. It's up to the reader to decide which side he should follow. For instance, there are stories saying that parents should stone their disobedient rugrats. There are also stories about forgiving people who trespass against you, even up to seventy times seven (Matthew 18:21-22) http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?sea...B;CJB;NKJV

So should you fly off the handle and kill your mouthy children but expect mercy and forgiveness for your own misdeeds countless times? What happens to people who fly into fits of road rage? Such incidents don't normally end well for the people involved.

When Jesus condemned whole towns to hell fire for not believing in him (Matthew 11:21-24) http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?sea...B;CJB;NKJV was he displaying forgiveness as he said one should do in Matthew 18:21-22?

If you are supposed to help those in need as Jesus said in Matthew 25:35-46 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?sea...B;CJB;NKJV why would you refuse to help a widow younger than sixty as Paul said in 1 Timothy 5:3-15 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?sea...B;CJB;NKJV

If young widows can get married as soon as their husbands croak why can't men get another income the same day they lose their current one? Why do men deserve help more than widows?

In many ways the Bible stories are satirical essays about morality. They give the ideal and then contrast it with the imperfect.

For example, if you are supposed to pray for your enemies as Jesus said in Matthew 5:44 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?sea...B;CJB;NKJV why didn't he ever pray for Satan?
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RE: The Bible: not a page turner!
(April 1, 2014 at 5:44 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Maybe we could persuade Quentin Tarantino to do a re-write.

He could make that bastard ROCK!

Boru

He would be the only director in my opinion, who remake "The Greatest Story Ever Told", which would be quite faithful to the text it was based on.

(April 1, 2014 at 6:17 pm)Fromper Wrote: And it's rated R for excessive violence and sexuality.

NC-17 actually, since you have scenes for example; In Genesis 9 Ham sodomizing his own father Noah. Or in Judges 19 Story of a guy who let his concubine be raped . Then the guy cut up her dead body into 12 pieces and send those pieces all across Israel.
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RE: The Bible: not a page turner!
(April 2, 2014 at 12:44 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: In many ways the Bible stories are satirical essays about morality. They give the ideal and then contrast it with the imperfect.

Big Grin

I strongly suspect that the authors may not have intended it to be satire.

Read with a satirical perspective in mind, however, the Bible could be a much more entertaining read.
I would have liked a more slapstick, sitcom feel to it though...

For example:

Noah builds an Ark to escape the flood.
God drowns the entire world.
Noah lands on a little island and makes a sacrifice.
God smells the sacrifice and comes down, wearing a clown nose.
God says: 'Just kidding! C'mon! lighten up everybody!' *honks car horn*
An angel does a drum roll and ends with a cymbal.
Noah, his family and all the animals laugh. Freeze frame.
Credits roll.

But now I feel we are criticising the story of the bible, rather than its 'entertainment' value.






























































































































































































































































































































































































































































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(April 1, 2014 at 6:07 pm)sven Wrote: Reservoir Disciples?
That would be outstanding.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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RE: The Bible: not a page turner!
When I was sixteen or so, I picked up a bible just for the hell of it to see what the fuss really was about, and after several dozen "begats," I said, "fuck this" and skipped to what I knew to be the bloody ending. I only revelations, and I never intend to open a bible again. It was a less than compelling read.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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RE: The Bible: not a page turner!
(April 2, 2014 at 8:42 am)Justtristo Wrote: He would be the only director in my opinion, who remake "The Greatest Story Ever Told", which would be quite faithful to the text it was based on.

Whenever I hear "The Greatest Story Ever Told" I always finish it with my favorite line for The Da Vinci Code: "The Greatest Story Ever Told was in fact the greatest story ever sold."

As for reading the bible, yeah. It sucks. I started a reread last November and I got to... Deuteronomy (I think) before I fell away from it. I'd feel bad about leaving it mid read, but I started a novel that actually has some entertainment value and quality writing to it's name: Twilight.


Teenaged X-Files obsession + Bermuda Triangle episode + Self-led school research project = Atheist.
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RE: The Bible: not a page turner!
(April 2, 2014 at 10:41 am)Clueless Morgan Wrote:
(April 2, 2014 at 8:42 am)Justtristo Wrote: He would be the only director in my opinion, who remake "The Greatest Story Ever Told", which would be quite faithful to the text it was based on.

Whenever I hear "The Greatest Story Ever Told" I always finish it with my favorite line for The Da Vinci Code: "The Greatest Story Ever Told was in fact the greatest story ever sold."

As for reading the bible, yeah. It sucks. I started a reread last November and I got to... Deuteronomy (I think) before I fell away from it. I'd feel bad about leaving it mid read, but I started a novel that actually has some entertainment value and quality writing to it's name: Twilight.



I fucking new it. Someone with that level of fucktardation would not be able to write such a well worded post.






























































































































































































































































































































































































































































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RE: The Bible: not a page turner!
(April 2, 2014 at 11:27 am)sven Wrote: I fucking new it. Someone with that level of fucktardation would not be able to write such a well worded post.

Angel Cloud
Teenaged X-Files obsession + Bermuda Triangle episode + Self-led school research project = Atheist.
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