Godschild Wrote:You are the one that made age relevant when you used this verse to imply that God had given a law to kill little childern. I'm not the one nitpicking you are by using one verse without comparing and applying other related verses to Exodus 21:17. As for your statement that the laws are not necessarily related tells me you are not nor were you ever of an understanding of scripture. I can only hope that you did not teach scripture when you were evangelizing.
Let's go then:
If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear. -- Deuteronomy 21:18-21
He that smiteth his father, or his mother, shall be surely put to death. -- Exodus 21:15
He that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death. -- Exodus 21:17
The eye that mocketh at his father, and despiseth to obey his mother, the ravens of the valley shall pick it out, and the young eagles shall eat it. -- Proverbs 30:17
And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and ... offer him there for a burnt offering.... And Abraham stretched forth his hand, and took the knife to slay his son. -- Genesis 22:2,10
The LORD smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh that sat on his throne unto the firstborn of the captive that was in the dungeon.... And there was a great cry in Egypt; for there was not a house where there was not one dead. -- Exodus 12:29-30
And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head. And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them. -- 2 Kings 2:23-24
And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat. -- Leviticus 26:29
And thou shalt eat the fruit of thine own body, the flesh of thy sons and of thy daughters. -- Deuteronomy 28:53
And I will cause them to eat the flesh of their sons and the flesh of their daughters, and they shall eat every one the flesh of his friend. -- Jeremiah 19:9
Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones. -- Psalm 137:9
A prophet must be killed by his own parents by "thrusting him through when he prophesieth." -- Zechariah 13:3
God punished Nineveh by enslaving the people and smashing the little children in the streets. -- Nahum 3:10
"They shall take thy sons and thy daughters; and thy residue shall be devoured by the fire." -- Ezekiel 23:25
King Darius, after trying to feed Daniel to the lions, orders those who accused Daniel (and their wives and children) to be cast into the lion den. "And the lions ... brake all their bones in pieces." -- Daniel 6:24
God "will not have mercy upon ... the children of whoredoms. For their mother hath played the harlot." -- Hosea 2:4-5
God will induce miscarriages and kill the children of Ephraim. -- Hosea 9:11-12
God will punish Israel by "dashing" together mothers and their children. -- Hosea 10:14
Because the Samaritans chose to worship another deity, God will dash their infants to pieces and their "women with child shall be ripped up." -- Hosea 13:16
Enough for you yet? How about these ones from Jesus? If you care to, you can find what he says is exactly what is paraphrased:
Families will be torn apart because of Jesus (this is one of the few "prophecies" in the Bible that has actually come true). "Brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death." Paraphrased Matthew 10:21
Jesus says that he has come to destroy families by making family members hate each other. He has "come not to send peace, but a sword." Paraphrased Matthew 10:34-36
Jesus warns us not to love our parents or children too much. We have to make sure that we always love him (who we don't even know existed) more than our family. Paraphrased Matthew 10:37
Jesus is criticized by the Pharisees for not washing his hands before eating. He defends himself by attacking them for not killing disobedient children according to the commandment: "He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death." (See Ex.21:15, Lev.20:9, Dt.21:18-21) So, does Jesus think that children who curse their parents should be killed? It sure sounds like it. Paraphrased Matthew 15:4-7
Abandon your wife and children for Jesus and he'll give you a big reward. Paraphrased Matthew 19:29
And back to the good old fashioned version:
"He that spareth not his own son" shouldn't be trusted by anyone. -- Romans 8:32
Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof. -- Genesis 19:8
Can't stand to read your own holy book? There are plenty more places where children are slain, sold, tortured, or otherwise suffered because of God. Would you care to find me one child in the Bible that was not?
Please tell me you are being facetious when you suggest "you are not nor were you ever of an understanding of scripture"... rather those who do understand scripture are the ones who dislike it, and must form excuses such as "God knows best" and "It's all in His plan".
