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Natural Proof for a Supernatural Being
April 12, 2014 at 2:10 pm
Is there even any?
If you have some, show it to me please. What makes you believe that existence was intelligently designed?
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
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RE: Natural Proof for a Supernatural Being
April 12, 2014 at 2:14 pm
3..2...1.....
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RE: Natural Proof for a Supernatural Being
April 13, 2014 at 1:46 am
Nothing
Just as I suspected ^_^
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
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RE: Natural Proof for a Supernatural Being
April 13, 2014 at 2:29 am
Do you know what they call the "supernatural" when it's proven to exist?
"Natural".
Seriously, if ghosts, for example, were proven to exist, they could potentially be observed, then studied and then potentially understood and explained. We'd expect Dr. Venkman-like ectoplasm detector devices (or, if you prefer, the devices Sam and Dean use on "Supernatural"). If it exists, it can be demonstrated to scientists under peer review, at which point it gets brought into our understand of the natural order.
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RE: Natural Proof for a Supernatural Being
April 13, 2014 at 11:16 am
I'm just asking for scientific observations of our world that points to a Creator.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
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RE: Natural Proof for a Supernatural Being
April 13, 2014 at 11:20 am
Make sure you do something useful or fun while you're waiting. You don't want to waste too much time!
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RE: Natural Proof for a Supernatural Being
April 13, 2014 at 11:24 am
Oh come come now, I have an Area69 pass! 
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
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RE: Natural Proof for a Supernatural Being
April 13, 2014 at 11:48 am
Cosmic fine-tuning. 
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RE: Natural Proof for a Supernatural Being
April 13, 2014 at 11:51 am
(April 13, 2014 at 11:16 am)Luckie Wrote: I'm just asking for scientific observations of our world that points to a Creator.
Homosexuality proves God.  I have a thread on that somewhere around here.
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RE: Natural Proof for a Supernatural Being
April 13, 2014 at 11:52 am
Show me an example of this fine tuning, kind sir?
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
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