(April 15, 2014 at 1:44 pm)Chad32 Wrote: I guess I just have different ideas of what is acceptable and what isn't than you guys.What exactly is your idea of what's acceptable? What should minimum wage be? I assume you must be thinking of a significant hike. A buck an hour is only $40/week pretax at your maximum workweek, and that's not changing anyone's life.
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"They'll just raise prices if thy raise the minimum wage."
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A wage that keeps up with inflation, so that minimum wage is something that people can live off of. If you need multiple jobs or long hours to make ends meat off of minimum wage, then what's the point of minimum wage?
How many hours would be acceptable? I'd like work, free time, and sleep. Eight hours of each fits nicely into a twenty four hour day.
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How much? "Live off of" is ambiguous.
RE: "They'll just raise prices if thy raise the minimum wage."
April 15, 2014 at 2:12 pm
(This post was last modified: April 15, 2014 at 2:12 pm by Chad32.)
That depends on where you live. Living on your own, I would suppose you'd need enough for a roof over your head, enough to pay the monthly expenses, enough extra for things that don't happen every month, and maybe a vehicle if you don't live in a place with public transportation.
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10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason... http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/ Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50 A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh. http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html  (April 15, 2014 at 2:05 pm)Chad32 Wrote: How many hours would be acceptable? I'd like work, free time, and sleep. Eight hours of each fits nicely into a twenty four hour day. I used to hire technicians at a company I used to work for. The ones that talked like you NEVER got hired. I figured them as being lazy. I don't care what their qualifications were I wouldn't hire them. Now I agree that it is nice to work only 8 and make out fine on it but the real world usually isn't that way. My mind set is "however long it takes". I'm not lazy. I have worked 32 hours straight before with no sleep and minimal breaks.  (April 13, 2014 at 5:48 pm)Chad32 Wrote: I've been hearing about the minimum wage being so low that people with a full time job still need assistance or multiple jobs to make a living wage, but I've had people say we can't raise the minimum wage because stores and such will just raise prices.This assumes two things: 1- the store is getting by on razor-thin margins even though... 2-...they pay most/all of their staff minimum wage. If you cannot afford to increase the pay of your lowest-wage employees, you are probably on the verge of bankruptcy. In which case you might not want to be dismissive of government programs for assisting the poor and jobless, seeing as you might be joining them soon. This is not to say that you should automatically give them all raises, but the idea that a wage increase for your lowest earners will force you to raise prices doesn't make much sense. Wouldn't it be more likely that giving raises to your highest earners would have a greater impact on the bottom line?
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I could barely get through twelve and a half hours without a ten hour energy drink. I can't imagine working for 32 hours. Of course I wear contacts, and they need to be taken out periodically so my eyes can rest. That kind of work is probably physically impossible.
I'm just not the kind of guy that wants to spend his youth with his nose on the grindstone so he can retire and have some fun when he's older. I guess unambitious people like me are at a disadvantage when employers want as much work a possible with as little pay as possible.
Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."
10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason... http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/ Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50 A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh. http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html (April 15, 2014 at 3:05 pm)Chad32 Wrote: I'm just not the kind of guy that wants to spend his youth with his nose on the grindstone so he can retire and have some fun when he's older. I guess unambitious people like me are at a disadvantage when employers want as much work a possible with as little pay as possible.This is what it all really boils down to. 
Which is funny, because I'm guessing Alpha Male's job description is either Janitor or Handyman.
 (April 15, 2014 at 10:45 am)Heywood Wrote: Do you think early hunter/gatherers stopped hunting and gathering after 8 hours and took two days off whether or not they found food? Negative Chad...they kept going and going if that is what they needed to do to survive. Quote: Sahlins' argument partly relies on studies undertaken by McCarthy and McArthur in Arnhem Land, and by Richard Lee among the !Kung. These studies show that hunter-gatherers need only work about fifteen to twenty hours a week in order to survive and may devote the rest of their time to leisure. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_...nt_society
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