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RE: Human body is the best God can do?
April 23, 2010 at 4:03 pm
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(April 23, 2010 at 3:19 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: That would be him making himself
are you saying that God's windpipe and esophagus run different tubes? are you saying that God doesn't starve or take a shit? I can't believe people describe something so poorly understood, something that's only vaguely described, a god, as 'perfect'. How could you expect anything after death when all you know is our dependency on matter?
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RE: Human body is the best God can do?
April 23, 2010 at 4:18 pm
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(April 23, 2010 at 3:19 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: That would be him making himself
And weren't we supposedly made in "his image"? In any case, couldn't this deity create a body for us that didn't have such an obvious design flaw?
(April 23, 2010 at 3:49 pm)Welsh cake Wrote: Clearly this deity loves sea mammals like blue whales more than us then, since their respiratory and digestive systems are separate from each other. Choking to death is pretty much impossible for them.
Hmmmm.... maybe "God" is a dolphin? 
Science flies us to the moon and stars. Religion flies us into buildings.
God allowed 200,000 people to die in an earthquake. So what makes you think he cares about YOUR problems?
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RE: Human body is the best God can do?
April 23, 2010 at 9:08 pm
I like to think about how marvelous the human body is. Sure you can make a case for it's "poor design", but you can also make a case for its miraculous complexity. So far we haven't found another race or creature that is close to as smart and self-aware as we are. And we can see pretty far nowadays. Your immune system is very, very powerful and efficient. Until it turns on itself.
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The argument that it is poorly designed starts to define good design by proxy... May be we need to have our throat and windpipe together. May be choking is next to godliness...
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RE: Human body is the best God can do?
April 23, 2010 at 9:13 pm
Quote:So far we haven't found another race or creature that is close to as smart and self-aware as we are.
You have a rather high opinion of yourself, don't you?
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RE: Human body is the best God can do?
April 23, 2010 at 10:51 pm
Since this god person is "supposedly" perfect.
By extension everything he does must therefore also be perfect.
Thusly it would be impossible for him to make anything that is imperfect.
BTW just because something is complex doesn't automatically mean it is better.
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RE: Human body is the best God can do?
April 24, 2010 at 3:58 am
So Zen
Is everything you do more complex than yourself?
No
so your theory fails
a perfect being could only make something less perfect than itself
God is at the top of the tree
he doesn't create things bigger and better than himself
or equal to him
thanks
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RE: Human body is the best God can do?
April 24, 2010 at 4:00 am
(April 24, 2010 at 3:58 am)fr0d0 Wrote: So Zen
Is everything you do more complex than yourself?
No
so your theory fails
a perfect being could only make something less perfect than itself
God is at the top of the tree
he doesn't create things bigger and better than himself
or equal to him
thanks
I'm astonished that you presume to understand how this God creates things!
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RE: Human body is the best God can do?
April 24, 2010 at 4:09 am
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(April 24, 2010 at 4:00 am)Fluké Wrote: (April 24, 2010 at 3:58 am)fr0d0 Wrote: So Zen
Is everything you do more complex than yourself?
No
so your theory fails
a perfect being could only make something less perfect than itself
God is at the top of the tree
he doesn't create things bigger and better than himself
or equal to him
thanks
I'm astonished that you presume to understand how this God creates things!
Same here fr0d0!! Humans are the only species that delight in complicating matters! This could be used to support the theory that humans NEED religion and NEED to feel 'special"
You belittle your deity SOOOOO MUCH! So now you are saying that this deity could not create something like the cosmos?? You think the Cosmos CARES!! Spoken to a couple of Super Novas and Black Holes have you??
The whole "god" thing is just an extension of the Feudal System and is perpetuated by slaves who don't have the wit to think for themselves....
NO sir fr0d0 YOU are the epic FAIL!!
You are being too polite Fluke!
"The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
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RE: Human body is the best God can do?
April 24, 2010 at 4:22 am
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(April 24, 2010 at 4:00 am)Fluké Wrote: I'm astonished that you presume to understand how this God creates things! where did I say that?
I'm talking logical possibilities here. We can consider those, and observe violations.
(April 24, 2010 at 4:09 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: Same here fr0d0!! Humans are the only species that delight in complicating matters! This could be used to support the theory that humans NEED religion and NEED to feel 'special" Whatever. I hope you feel better soon 
(April 24, 2010 at 4:09 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: You belittle your deity SOOOOO MUCH! So now you are saying that this deity could not create something like the cosmos?? You think the Cosmos CARES!! Spoken to a couple of Super Novas and Black Holes have you?? The cosmos is less complex than God. God is at the top of the tree. Did you miss that bit? (I wouldn't blame you... I was writing in a zen stylie  )
(April 24, 2010 at 4:09 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: The whole "god" thing is just an extension of the Feudal System and is perpetuated by slaves who don't have the wit to think for themselves.... Feeling your pain 
(April 24, 2010 at 4:09 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: NO sir fr0d0 YOU are the epic FAIL!! Because you say so. ok. 
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RE: Human body is the best God can do?
April 24, 2010 at 4:32 am
(April 24, 2010 at 4:22 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Feeling your pain
Nah been there done that got the sigmata...but can inflict some on YOU if YOU like (for the sake of your beliefs?)
(April 24, 2010 at 4:22 am)fr0d0 Wrote: (April 24, 2010 at 4:09 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: NO sir fr0d0 YOU are the epic FAIL!! Because you say so. ok.
Damn straight !! And don't you forget it!! 
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