For the Thinking Man.

[Bittersmart]

Rational thinking lies outside the realm of evolutionary biology.
And that's true no matter how it develops.

Just because you say something doesn't automatically make it true. That's not how it works.

[Heywood]

Rational thinking builds upon itself. It pulls itself by its bootstraps so to speak. I believe in God, but I see no reason why rational thinking is dependent on God's existence any more than 2+2=4 depends on God's existence.

Rational thinking lies outside the realm of evolutionary biology.
And that's true no matter how it develops.

The only rational thinking things I can see or touch are biological ones. Why could not the ability of rational thinking develop evolutionary?

[Artur Axmann]

sorry, how did you refute my argument.. ? I somehow missed it..

Your argument from ignorance? It's easy to refute a fallacy.

You believe that consciousness (and rational thought) could not have come from biological processes because you don't fully understand it how that's possible.

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He hasn't ignored Bittersmart....I think your hypothesis is wrong.

After he answered every one else first and then we said something about it.

I explained .... but you haven't ...explained nichts.

[Heywood]

After he answered every one else first and then we said something about it.

His first two responses in this thread were directed at you. He certainly hasn't ignored you. This claim that he is ignoring women is an ad hominem attack(and a false one at that).

Attack his argument, not how you perceive his character to be.

[rexbeccarox]

Every thread I've seen him participating in, I've tried to count the number of women he responds to because I thought I noticed a pattern. I think he might just... ignore women?

He hasn't ignored Bittersmart....I think your hypothesis is wrong.

If I'm proven wrong, I'm willing to accept it. Here; let's test the hypothesis:

Artur, do you consider yourself misogynistic or chauvinistic?

[Heywood]

He hasn't ignored Bittersmart....I think your hypothesis is wrong.

If I'm proven wrong, I'm willing to accept it. Here; let's test the hypothesis:

Artur, do you consider yourself misogynistic or chauvinistic?

What does your test have to do with his argument? The guy is one guy taking a position and 5 or more people are attacking it. Some of your post are going to get ignored.....that's the way it rolls in lopsided discussions(I know this from experience).

[Artur Axmann]

He hasn't ignored Bittersmart....I think your hypothesis is wrong.

If I'm proven wrong, I'm willing to accept it. Here; let's test the hypothesis:

Artur, do you consider yourself misogynistic or chauvinistic?

I just ruined the keyboard by spilling my heineken .. you owe me a new one.

Why not ask me if i beat my dog ..

[Rampant.A.I.]

Rational thinking builds upon itself. It pulls itself by its bootstraps so to speak. I believe in God, but I see no reason why rational thinking is dependent on God's existence any more than 2+2=4 depends on God's existence.

Rational thinking lies outside the realm of evolutionary biology.
And that's true no matter how it develops.

Are you familiar with the field of evolutionary psychology?

Does the mind have content-rich, evolved concepts? How are they tied to evolved motivational systems? See The Co-Evolution of Concepts and Motivation, by Andrew Delton and Aaron Sell.

http://www.cep.ucsb.edu

http://www.sscnet.ucla.edu/anthro/bec/pa...2.4.99.rtf

[rexbeccarox]

If I'm proven wrong, I'm willing to accept it. Here; let's test the hypothesis:

Artur, do you consider yourself misogynistic or chauvinistic?

I just ruined the keyboard by spilling my heineken .. you owe me a new one.

Why not ask me if i beat my dog ..

Huh. I don't think it's a bad question in light of the fact that you've largely ignored the women on this forum.

OK, I'll bite. Do you beat your dog?

And Heywood, you don't have to participate in a side-discussion if you don't want to. There's a rule about calling people out, so I can't start a new thread. Get over it.

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Oh, and I will never replace a Heineken. It's swill.

[Artur Axmann]

Rational thinking lies outside the realm of evolutionary biology.
And that's true no matter how it develops.

Are you familiar with the field of evolutionary psychology?

Does the mind have content-rich, evolved concepts? How are they tied to evolved motivational systems? See The Co-Evolution of Concepts and Motivation, by Andrew Delton and Aaron Sell.

http://www.cep.ucsb.edu

http://www.sscnet.ucla.edu/anthro/bec/pa...2.4.99.rtf

Yes,I am ,in a cursory sort of way.