Evidence In Exchange

[Jackalope]

Let Jesus come inside you

Hey, if you want to be Jesus' cum dumpster, that's your business.

Leave me out of it.

[downbeatplumb]

Is this the new poe of the day?

[Anomalocaris]

Let Jesus come inside you

Hey, if you want to be Jesus' cum dumpster, that's your business.

Leave me out of it.

Bet Jesus was a sterile impotent drone.

[RobbyPants]

That makes no sense. You just can't seem to get your small minds around the fact that if there was all this evidence you wouldn't need faith. That's the whole point- one must have faith.

You can't seem to get your small mind around the fact that faith in X with no evidence is no different than faith in Y with no evidence. If you refuse to allow evidence into the equation, then I can submit Allah, leprechauns, unicorns, wargarble, and your mom as equally viable alternatives to YHWH. After all, what are you going to counter with? Evidence?

Once you reduce your position to that, no one needs to pay you any more attention than they would to a guy telling us to worship Allah/leprechauns/unicorns/wargarble/and your mom, or else. Even adding the threat doesn't make it compelling.

And here, let me nullify your "or hell!" clause. Prove to me (and you're not allowed to claim "no evidence") that there does not exist a god named Steve who will send you to hell for blind faith, and will only allow the rational into heaven. Prove that. You can't. There are an infinite number of faith-based claims, each nullifying the others. No one cares.

[Eye of God]

Real Nice. The person that sends ME a warning for violating a rule that I clearly didn't violate proceeds to personally attack me with these images.

You're a joke moderator right?

'Don't violate our rules, we're the only ones who can violate our rules.'

We allow preaching, accept for when we don't. We allow theists, but we don't want to hear about their faith.
What a dishonest lot you are. What exactly do you expect a believer to say??? Have you ever pondered the fact that without us here you'de all be sitting around patting eachother on the back and celebrating your collective ignorance?

Tell me you halfwit, do you get a pass for insulting me while I get disciplined for insulting you? If I call you a brainless gutless arrogant mental case do I get disciplined?

Hey Administrators, you should go ahead and decide what is and is not allowed on your site and than go ahead and enforce it equally. Otherwise, you've lost all credibility and this is just a clique of internet tuffs bullying others and making up random rules.

[Tonus]

For Faith?!?!??????

That makes no sense. You just can't seem to get your small minds around the fact that if there was all this evidence you wouldn't need faith. That's the whole point- one must have faith.

No, we're well aware of how your faith works, and how you use it to shield yourself from evidence.

As for your poll, you are mistaken. This is the king of kings:

[Eye of God]

Esquilax, you seem like an educated person. I've read several of your posts and I think you're probably very smart.
Unfortunately, your knowledge may very well be your undoing. Which saddens me greatly.

And there it is, that smooth transition from ingratiating, cloying pleasantries to crude standover tactics and passive aggressive revenge fantasies. It's just gross, like I'm being sold a used car that doesn't even seem to exist.

As for your issues with my preaching, I am not violating any rules. If you would like to discuss with me, I'm happy to do so.

If it reaches critical mass, if it becomes a pattern, then it definitely does breach rule one. We used to have a preaching rule, but it was absorbed into rule one a while ago, and many of its premises are still found therein; if all you're going to do is tell us we're hellbound and should accept Jesus, that's not really in keeping with the purpose of the forum.

"Just have faith!" isn't an argument, and it's definitely not a discussion.

Shall we talk about your need to overcome all matters of faith with logic? Logic and reason are wonderful God given things, but they were not meant to keep you from your Creator.

As I said earlier, faith can be used to justify anything, making it useless. I've yet to be given an argument for why I should have faith in the christian god that doesn't presuppose the tenets of the christian faith are true.

Additionally, why would god give us logic and reason, only to ensure that following those two things, which are probably the most important tool we have in any other respect, lead us to believe that he doesn't exist?

God gave us logic and reason in order to grow our intelligence and succeed on this planet, not to undermine Him and destroy our own faith. Satan has a hand in that too. He's very clever and can use the logic and reason that God gave you to work against your beliefs. The two must remain separate.

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As for your poll, you are mistaken. This is the king of kings:

lol, That is a buffoon.

[The Grand Nudger]

Agreed, the only way that the one can exist is by compromising the other. At least you overtly compartmentalize a scattered thought process. How often do you, personally, feel tempted by satan to use your reasoning faculties? What was the most compelling rational thought he ever placed in your head (and how did you overcome your own ability to utilize logic - if applicable)?


...and if you've never personally been tempted...do you know anyone who has? Would you be able to persuade them to join the forums? All the same questions to them.

....and if you haven't, and don't know anyone that has.......well......

[Bad Wolf]

Real Nice. The person that sends ME a warning for violating a rule that I clearly didn't violate proceeds to personally attack me with these images.

You're a joke moderator right?

'Don't violate our rules, we're the only ones who can violate our rules.'

We allow preaching, accept for when we don't. We allow theists, but we don't want to hear about their faith.
What a dishonest lot you are. What exactly do you expect a believer to say??? Have you ever pondered the fact that without us here you'de all be sitting around patting eachother on the back and celebrating your collective ignorance?

Tell me you halfwit, do you get a pass for insulting me while I get disciplined for insulting you? If I call you a brainless gutless arrogant mental case do I get disciplined?

Hey Administrators, you should go ahead and decide what is and is not allowed on your site and than go ahead and enforce it equally. Otherwise, you've lost all credibility and this is just a clique of internet tuffs bullying others and making up random rules.

This is a discussion forum you chucklefuck. If that picture is all he ever posted, then you would have a point. But no. He has been trying to discuss with you but you have been un-wielding.

You don't discuss anything, you've just been making claims again and again without evidence. Telling us what you believe and why is fine, but that is not what you have been doing. You have been preaching without actually engaging in any kind of discussion. And BTW if you want us to treat you with any respect, stop telling us again and again that we are going to burn in hell.

[Cato]

God gave us logic and reason...

I bet you can't demonstrate the veracity of this statement using logic and reason.