Life after death?

[GrandizerII]

So how I think does not mean I must have a soul. We are generally conditioned to see people as more than just objects because that's what's been helping us as human beings to function in life with each other.

And that's a 'soul', by some definitions. It's not some organ Jesus invented, it's just a word that theists use to describe what we are conditioned and some taught by religions to see people as.

But weren't you speaking of a soul that lasts forever? An actual entity rather than some concept? I don't have a problem with the casual use of the word "soul" to denote that we tend to be see others as more than just objects.

[Logisch]

1. The First Thing that Happens is Bliss. As soon as you die, you’re sucked out of your body into a Healing Chamber. The lights in that Chamber erase all the harm you suffered during your entire lifetime, physical, mental and emotional. So, in less than a nanosecond, all your pain is gone.

Citation needed

2. You Still Feel Like Yourself. Even though you don’t have your body anymore, you still feel like an individual. Actually, you feel more like yourself than you did when you were alive. There’s so much influence from others while you’re on earth that in a way you don’t get to be you.

Citation needed.

3. Light Has a Personality.

What the fuck? Citation needed. TIL photons are loving and interesting things to talk to, apparently.

4. Sin and Punishment is a Human Concept. There’s a lot of mumbo jumbo on earth about what might be waiting for you after you die. Making mistakes while you’re alive is part of the earth deal. If we had to be perfect to get to so-called Heaven, no- one would make it there.

Uhhh. The premise of this in the afterlife is also a human concept. Citation needed.

5. Your Life On Earth Isn’t a Punishment Either. Sure, there’s pain in life, but not because you’ve done anything to deserve it. Pain is part of the human experience, as natural as breath or eyesight or blood moving through your veins.

Pain is part of being any living organism with a set of nerves that is capable of sensing pain, you kind of just get used to it.

6. After You Die, Instead of Judgment Day There’s No-Judgment Day. When you review your life, you see the paths you took and the ones you didn’t. You see where your genius was and where you might have done better, but you don’t feel judgmental about it. And even though it might not make sense to you now, after you die you understand that you had a great life, even the hard parts.

Citation needed. Pretty hilarious though. "Don't like the idea of a judgment day? Well use your wishful thinking for a NO-JUDGMENT DAY! sounds good? Well it is, because it sounds good!"

7. You’re Happy You Look Like Yourself. You’re not concerned with the way you look. There are no pretensions or efforts to appear any which way. You just radiate, which is effortless.

I'll probably radiate a terrible stench but that's about it.

8. Love Is Not the Same As Earth Love. You’re not loved because of what you do, how you look, how famous you are, or how much money you make. It’s not like yesterday I loved you, but today I don’t anymore. Love is truly unconditional. Most controversial of all is that in the afterlife there’s perfect compassion and no matter how you lived you are loved.

Who comes up with this shit? Citation needed.

[Mudhammam]

3. Light Has a Personality.

Everyone all at once:







WAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Purplundy]

But weren't you speaking of a soul that lasts forever? An actual entity rather than some concept? I don't have a problem with the casual use of the word "soul" to denote that we tend to see others as more than just objects.

I didn't think you would. That's why we're all people.
en·ti·ty noun \ˈen-tə-tē, ˈe-nə-\ something that has separate and distinct existence and objective or conceptual reality
Simply put, once you die, you go brain-dead and your body decomposes. But what gets your family members to cry about it (religions call it a 'soul'), can't really disappear because your existence is undoable. Even after you are long forgotten, the kind of person you were will still have an indelible mark on human history and the universe in a way distinct from any other lifeform.

[Jenny A]

But weren't you speaking of a soul that lasts forever? An actual entity rather than some concept? I don't have a problem with the casual use of the word "soul" to denote that we tend to see others as more than just objects.

I didn't think you would. That's why we're all people.
en·ti·ty noun \ˈen-tə-tē, ˈe-nə-\ something that has separate and distinct existence and objective or conceptual reality
Simply put, once you die, you go brain-dead and your body decomposes. But what gets your family members to cry about it (religions call it a 'soul'), can't really disappear because your existence is undoable. Even after you are long forgotten, the kind of person you were will still have an indelible mark on human history and the universe in a way distinct from any other lifeform.

Well your existence is undoable in the sense that it did happen. But, it's mark on the universe may not have much to do with who you were. There are countless jokes and novels about the man or woman competing with their spouse's dead husband or wife, and losing because the memory is of perfect being who never really existed.

Our stories, even perhaps especially about the famous, are largely apocryphal.

[Logisch]

3. Light Has a Personality.

Everyone all at once:







WAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I know, that part kinda cracked me up. Light is nothing more than the medium of light which is photons and the reaction from your photoreceptors. If not for that, you'd have no specific reference point to know light exists, therefore would not know light probably even does exist. At that point, we'd probably feel the warm sunlight when we go outside from our sense of touch, and perhaps we would then think and correlate that to, "the outside warm in the afterlife is different than the outside warm we know now. In the afterlife, the outside warm knows love and will always make us feel warm and loving. It has feelings."

I think as a coping mechanism, people prefer to think of things that make them happy. Don't like the terrifying thoughts of death? Have no fear, it's fluffy and happy instead! Don't like the idea of foul stenches after dying? It's ok, ghosts fart in the afterlife and actually smell like roses and taste like skittles if it gets into your mouth.

Do you like rainbows? Well good, because in the afterlife, the sunset is a million rainbows and is so incredible that you will have constant orgasms at every sunset. But not even to make that seem silly, sexual feelings in the afterlife feel like someone punched you in the balls, WITH MORE NERVE ENDINGS, so it's like having a giant punching orgasm, EVERY SUNSET!

Or realistically it's that people come up with the opposite thing to whatever terrifies them. Wishful thinking, coping mechanisms, ways to try and feel good and set your mind at ease since terrifying thoughts are hard to cope with.

However, reality is what it is, and that doesn't always mean that it's what we want it to be.

[Purplundy]

Well your existence is undoable in the sense that it did happen. But, it's mark on the universe may not have much to do with who you were.

Depends on what mark you're talking about. If you chop down a tree in the forest, that tree won't be there after you die because you used your muscles and some metal to knock it down. Nothing spiritual there.
Then there are the "bigger" things, like the people you helped while alive. That ultimately changes communities, societies, and the world at large for the better or the worse.

[Zidneya]

All questions at the public meeting that day were about life beyond the grave.
The Master only laughed and did not give a single answer.

To his disciples, who demanded to know the reason for his evasiveness, he later said, "Have you observed that it is precisely those who do not know what to do with this life who want another that will last forever?"

"But is there life after death or is there not?" persisted a disciple.

"Is there life before death? - that is the question!" said the Master enigmatically.

© Anthony de Mello, SJ

[Jenny A]

Depends on what mark you're talking about. If you chop down a tree in the forest, that tree won't be there after you die because you used your muscles and some metal to knock it down. Nothing spiritual there.
Then there are the "bigger" things, like the people you helped while alive. That ultimately changes communities, societies, and the world at large for the better or the worse.

Sure. We can do many things that have lasting effect both good and bad after we die. But then so can fault-lines, volcanoes, rivers, trees, comets, stars, and various other things you probably wouldn't consider to have souls.

But in terms of deep time, i.e. billions and billions of years, nothing we do is likely to last.

This doesn't trouble me. I still would like to do good that lasts after my death. It matters to me because it matters to me. There's nothing mystical about it. What matters is that I have a conscious brain here and now.

[The Grand Nudger]

If you chop down a tree in the forest, that tree won't be there after you die because you used your muscles and some metal to knock it down. Nothing spiritual there.
Then there are the "bigger" things, like the people you helped while alive. That ultimately changes communities, societies, and the world at large for the better or the worse.

Those things are not "you" they are the consequences of your actions. That's a far - far cry from "self", or anything even closely resembling a "soul". Are we sure that these words really fit? I wouldn't want to think that we're just looking for some place to plug them in.