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RE: Why I Don't Believe in Atheism
August 1, 2014 at 1:03 am
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I am glad none of us can find a naturalistic explanation to account for the eyewitness testimony of the Apostles. The lawyer in the Guinness World Records who won 400 cases in a row said the best evidential case he has ever seen was for the life, death, burial, resurrection and deity of Jesus. So in terms of evidence, God has provided the best proof we could ever reasonably ask for.
In fact, you nor I can even come up with better evidence for Jesus being God. That's powerful.
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RE: Why I Don't Believe in Atheism
August 1, 2014 at 1:04 am
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(August 1, 2014 at 12:51 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: Sometimes it's great to see this level of ignorance written out. Shatters my optimistic view of humanity a little, but nonetheless good for some lulz.
You just need the proper perspective. 500 years ago, disagreeing with this lunacy would have earned you a death sentence instead of a front row seat at a mildly-entertaining clown show.
(August 1, 2014 at 1:03 am)MPCADF Wrote: In fact, you nor I can even come up with better evidence for Jesus being God. That's powerful.
The only way to come up with better evidence would be to come up with any at all.
Is the GBR the new bible now?
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RE: Why I Don't Believe in Atheism
August 1, 2014 at 1:06 am
Obvious troll.
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RE: Why I Don't Believe in Atheism
August 1, 2014 at 1:38 am
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(August 1, 2014 at 1:03 am)MPCADF Wrote: I am glad none of us can find a naturalistic explanation to account for the eyewitness testimony of the Apostles. The lawyer in the Guinness World Records who won 400 cases in a row said the best evidential case he has ever seen was for the life, death, burial, resurrection and deity of Jesus. So in terms of evidence, God has provided the best proof we could ever reasonably ask for.
In fact, you nor I can even come up with better evidence for Jesus being God. That's powerful.
There's that word again... you must stop trying to make yourself sound smarter. It's not working.
None of the Apostles were eyewitnesses. This FACT has been thoroughly hashed out by Biblical scholars. Your gospels can't even get the story straight. The genealogy of your own fucking deity is different in two of the books. (not to mention that it's traced through Joseph, who isn't blood related to Jesus at all, since your sky daddy pedo-ed out on Mary) There are historical inaccuracies, erroneous additions and copying mistakes, and the most important portion of the story, Jesus' crucifixion, is completely different in Luke than in Matthew.
(August 1, 2014 at 1:06 am)Rhythm Wrote: Obvious troll.
I feel like you're right, but I can't help it.
(August 1, 2014 at 1:06 am)Rhythm Wrote: Obvious troll.
I feel like you're right, but I can't help it.
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RE: Why I Don't Believe in Atheism
August 1, 2014 at 2:26 am
(August 1, 2014 at 1:03 am)MPCADF Wrote: I am glad none of us can find a naturalistic explanation to account for the eyewitness testimony of the Apostles. The lawyer in the Guinness World Records who won 400 cases in a row said the best evidential case he has ever seen was for the life, death, burial, resurrection and deity of Jesus. So in terms of evidence, God has provided the best proof we could ever reasonably ask for.
In fact, you nor I can even come up with better evidence for Jesus being God. That's powerful.
You can't even demonstrate that Jesus existed, let alone that he was god.
And I guess by your own logic, since you apparently can't refute my refutation on page four, that must make it true, and your cosmological nonsense is false.
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RE: Why I Don't Believe in Atheism
August 1, 2014 at 3:52 am
(August 1, 2014 at 1:03 am)MPCADF Wrote: I am glad none of us can find a naturalistic explanation to account for the eyewitness testimony of the Apostles. Ok, here's a very, very, very naturalistic explanation to account for the eyewitness testimony of the apostles: fiction.
You know, I've "recently" read a book... a series of books, actually, but oh well... the book is written under the POV of several of the characters, which gives a lot of different perspectives - each chapter is actually written by a different character and then bound into a book
In these books, we can find eyewitness testimony by a 14 year old girl accounting for the existence of dragons! Why would she lie?
Also, in the same book, there is eyewitness testimony of whitewalkers, humanoid zombie-like creatures that exist in the cold cold places of the planet.
In that book, it is said, although never testified, that the Lannisters shit gold. Oh, right... it was disproved when Tyrion does that thing to Tywin, at the end of book 3 - A storm of Swords. Anyway, still plausible.
If I was to assume, like you do with your book, that this book portrayed actual event that happened in the past, what would you think about me and my mental sanity?
Apply the same for any book, like, for instance, oh... I don't know... Torah, Qur'an, Vedas, Kama Sutra (or like someone once said: Karma Sutra  ).
(August 1, 2014 at 1:03 am)MPCADF Wrote: The lawyer in the Guinness World Records who won 400 cases in a row said the best evidential case he has ever seen was for the life, death, burial, resurrection and deity of Jesus. So in terms of evidence, God has provided the best proof we could ever reasonably ask for.
In fact, you nor I can even come up with better evidence for Jesus being God. That's powerful.
That's pitiful.
If the best evidence you have for the ultimate being's existence is unverifiable and oft contradictory eyewitness accounts, then that being sure does seem like it doesn't exist.
I'm not saying there wasn't a man called Jesus or whatever, but the stories about him sure do sound fictitious.
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RE: Why I Don't Believe in Atheism
August 1, 2014 at 5:33 am
Have you finished all the books? They are a great read, I think every GoT fan should read them!
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RE: Why I Don't Believe in Atheism
August 1, 2014 at 6:19 am
(August 1, 2014 at 5:33 am)Bad Wolf Wrote: Have you finished all the books? They are a great read, I think every GoT fan should read them! HEHE... No, I haven't read the still unwritten ones.
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RE: Why I Don't Believe in Atheism
August 1, 2014 at 6:32 am
MPCDAF,
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RE: Why I Don't Believe in Atheism
August 1, 2014 at 7:15 am
(August 1, 2014 at 1:03 am)MPCADF Wrote: I am glad none of us can find a naturalistic explanation to account for the eyewitness testimony of the Apostles. The lawyer in the Guinness World Records who won 400 cases in a row said the best evidential case he has ever seen was for the life, death, burial, resurrection and deity of Jesus. So in terms of evidence, God has provided the best proof we could ever reasonably ask for.
In fact, you nor I can even come up with better evidence for Jesus being God. That's powerful.
Well lets look at this impoverished third world lawyer's "skills" at examining evidence.
This comes from the first source I could find:
http://livingconnections.com/my-evidence/
Quote:Let me explain, I feel the presence of the wind, but I do not see it, yet I know it exists. I am conscious of electricity, yet I cannot see it. I know about the law of gravity, but I cannot explain it. If God can be fully proved by the human mind, then God is no greater than the mind that proves Him. I seek to explain creation without God. It just cannot be done! Our world travels around the sun at 66,600 miles per hour. Where does the motive force come from to give this inert mass motive power? If the world were nearer the sun we would burn up; further away, and we would die of cold. The world is just at the correct angle. What causes the world to go ‘round and round’ the sun? You guess, I know.
The existence of God is not dependent on any algebraic formula. Ask all the Scientists to produce a single blade of grass, ask them to produce a single living cell. Why they could not even produce a dead cell. Well what am I trying to do? It is to establish God by circumstantial evidence. Evidence, which leads us unremittingly to the conclusion that there is a God.
For the sake of time I will let others tear this tripe apart, but it is basically saying "amazing shit exists therefore god" which is not that impressive for even the worst drunk lawyer in the backwoods of Mississippi.
Quote:Let me call upon Nature to evidence God. The Bible says the Heavens declare the glory of God and the firmament sheweth his handiwork. Look at the regularity of the seasons in the precision of sun movements, the coming of day and night. Can any atheist or agnostic friends explain this without God?
Really .. this kind of argument is from the "world's most successful lawyer?"
Quote:Our eyes are fully automatic; they focus themselves; they are like a camera, a motion picture camera, not merely taking pictures in colour, but taking instant three-dimensional pictures and all without any laboratory equipment for development. I can look up into the heavens miles up, and the next instant look down at an ant a few inches away, and I can do so without any discomfort as the accommodation is effortless and immediate. Now, who made this wonder camera? Did it just happen? Even now as I write, the visual impressions of the words I am writing are being changed at the back of my eyes to electrical impulses which are them carried to the brain and the grey matter weighing a bare 3 lbs. immediately stores the information for use at the appropriate time, comparing new material with old which I previously stored. Can science explain these miracles? Or is not all science completely subservient to God’s will?
I won't continue quoting his drivel but it can be clearly seen that this guy was a fraud and could not compare to any competent US lawyer. He was also a pitifully incompetent christian apologist.
You should read a little of what a man has to say before you hold him up as a pillar of your beliefs.
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