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RE: Identifying the word of god
August 19, 2014 at 12:42 pm
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IMO, the Word, or Divine Logos, is not a set of texts. It is the living and primary emanation from the First Principle. Reason applied to experience points to the First Principle. When someone understands the First Principle, then they can recognize the correspondences between spiritual and physical reality in any text that has them. The only test is someone's ability to discern spiritual truths.
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RE: Identifying the word of god
August 19, 2014 at 12:46 pm
(August 19, 2014 at 12:42 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: It is the living and primary emanation from the First Principle.
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RE: Identifying the word of god
August 28, 2014 at 8:43 am
(August 18, 2014 at 3:20 pm)Michael Wrote: Hey Ben. Did you have to burst the bubble so soon? There I was, basking in the idea that I was somehow special. And then you come along and blow the gaff by letting everyone know that actually I'm just extraordinarily ordinary in UK Christianity.
(-p You're special to us, Michael 
Seriously though, on this forum there seem to be very few 'enlightened' christians (christians who incorporate enlightenment, secular and/or liberal values to their interpretation/expression of their faith). For some reason, it tends to attract a more literalist and/or right-wing crowd. Many of the theists I see are from the US: that may have something to do with it. Maybe it's just confirmation bias on my part...
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RE: Identifying the word of god
August 28, 2014 at 8:54 am
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(August 18, 2014 at 9:37 am)Elskidor Wrote: The entire concept of religion and invisible gods is so absurd I simply fail to understand how we can have so many morons still buying into this crap. I have an unhealthy anger that I can't seem to control when it comes to these weak minded sorts. My Grandfather died last week and his funeral was on Friday. He was a man of scientific mind that questioned all things, including religion, but some dipshit preacher came to turn my grandfather's burial into his own preaching ground. I was so disgusted I refused to shake his hand afterwards and told him to get the hell away from me. These morons are cursed with utter stupidity, and I felt robbed by a Jesus freak. It should have been a time for his family and friends to remember the man and recollect on his life and why we all loved him, and not a phony that died over 2000 years ago, if he ever existed at all.
Coffee rant over.
You know how we all sort of suspect that the really vocal homo-phobe might just be gay? Just saying.
(August 19, 2014 at 12:42 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: IMO, the Word, or Divine Logos, is not a set of texts. It is the living and primary emanation from the First Principle. Reason applied to experience points to the First Principle. When someone understands the First Principle, then they can recognize the correspondences between spiritual and physical reality in any text that has them. The only test is someone's ability to discern spiritual truths.
I don't care how you dress that pig up, I'm still not going to fuck it.
(August 18, 2014 at 3:34 pm)ShaMan Wrote: When is it [god], and when is it our own preferences?
Easy question. Yes. Got any more?
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RE: Identifying the word of god
September 5, 2014 at 9:30 am
(August 28, 2014 at 8:54 am)whateverist Wrote: (August 19, 2014 at 12:42 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: IMO, the Word, or Divine Logos, is not a set of texts. It is the living and primary emanation from the First Principle. Reason applied to experience points to the First Principle. When someone understands the First Principle, then they can recognize the correspondences between spiritual and physical reality in any text that has them. The only test is someone's ability to discern spiritual truths.
I don't care how you dress that pig up, I'm still not going to fuck it. Perhaps the reverse is the case. Perhaps you are dressing down the handsome youth of transcendent principles into the curmudgeon of materialism. :-0
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RE: Identifying the word of god
September 5, 2014 at 9:33 am
(September 5, 2014 at 9:30 am)ChadWooters Wrote: (August 28, 2014 at 8:54 am)whateverist Wrote: I don't care how you dress that pig up, I'm still not going to fuck it. Perhaps the reverse is the case. Perhaps you are dressing down the handsome youth of transcendent principles into the curmudgeon of materialism. :-0
At least pigs can be shown to exist.
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RE: Identifying the word of god
September 5, 2014 at 2:03 pm
(August 19, 2014 at 12:42 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: IMO, the Word, or Divine Logos, is not a set of texts. It is the living and primary emanation from the First Principle. Reason applied to experience points to the First Principle. When someone understands the First Principle, then they can recognize the correspondences between spiritual and physical reality in any text that has them. The only test is someone's ability to discern spiritual truths.
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RE: Identifying the word of god
September 5, 2014 at 3:56 pm
(September 5, 2014 at 2:03 pm)oukoida Wrote: (August 19, 2014 at 12:42 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: IMO, the Word, or Divine Logos, is not a set of texts. It is the living and primary emanation from the First Principle. Reason applied to experience points to the First Principle. When someone understands the First Principle, then they can recognize the correspondences between spiritual and physical reality in any text that has them. The only test is someone's ability to discern spiritual truths.
Better to remain silent and be thought the fool than confirm the belief by speaking...or in this case mocking what you clearly don't understand.
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RE: Identifying the word of god
September 5, 2014 at 4:41 pm
(September 5, 2014 at 3:56 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: (September 5, 2014 at 2:03 pm)oukoida Wrote: Better to remain silent and be thought the fool than confirm the belief by speaking...or in this case mocking what you clearly don't understand.
Define first principle or it really is word salad.
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god. If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.
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RE: Identifying the word of god
September 5, 2014 at 6:14 pm
(August 19, 2014 at 12:42 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: IMO, the Word, or Divine Logos, is not a set of texts. It is the living and primary emanation from the First Principle. Reason applied to experience points to the First Principle. When someone understands the First Principle, then they can recognize the correspondences between spiritual and physical reality in any text that has them. The only test is someone's ability to discern spiritual truths.
Provide evidence that this is nothing more than your confirmation bias.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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