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refuting misconceptions:1-women in Islam
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(June 10, 2010 at 12:26 pm)tavarish Wrote: Scented Nectar, I had a discussion at length with one of our resident nutjobs, Pippy about the pros and cons of porn - it's in the News/Activism section under the title "Smut for Smut".
I'll look for that. The topic has been coming up all over the place lately. Or maybe it's just on my mind.... Smile

Quote:I'm actually for fucking in public. It's a lot of fun.

By the way, it's funny that Mo says porn makes you look at women as objects of lust, when Islamic law is set up to cover up women because men can't control themselves. Also, how many of your four permanent wives have you collected thus far?
That's husbands, as I've been mostly straight in my needs these last couple decades. I'm not so sure I want to limit myself to just 4 men for the rest of my life anymore. I think I'll stay single. I did want to make sure though, that the islamic religion being offered was ok with such a thing. Being that women are all equal with men, they say, and being that a man can have 4 wives (plus any girls he's 'damaged' as long as he does not marry their sisters). Maybe it's just as well that I never got an answer, since I also never got an answer as to should I beat them with a toothbrush if they are lewd. I might do something evil and anti-allah by being okay with it instead of jealous and beaty with the toothbrush.

Quote:I went on to the site he proposed, and it's a bunch of fucking hogwash. Porn leads to sexual crimes? Don't you think the rate of sexual assault would be much fucking higher if that were true?
No statistics show higher crimes from it. My guess is that crimes are actually lowered as a result and that statistics might show that someday.

Quote:It also has a lot of irrelevant points, such as it makes you lie and makes you spiritually unclean. I honestly don't give a fuck about that.
If your spirit gets too unclean, you can always take a bath! But usually when wanking, as long as you don't mind it yourself, there is no need to shower and fancy yourself up for another person. Smile

The only times I lie regarding porn, is when I think that those around me might disapprove in a way I'm too uncomfortable with. I hear that many men have to lie about it to their girlfriends/wives because it has such a bad rep among many women, who are mostly taught to think of it as bad by society.

Quote:I like porn, I enjoy pleasuring myself, I enjoy pleasuring my partner, and I enjoy it when she pleasures me, specifically in a way that I've never experienced before. I don't see a harm in that, especially not if some sexually repressed Christian tells me kittens die because I masturbate.
If you are killing kittens when wanking, you need to start getting your sex toys at more legit businesses.

Porn is great for checking out new things. It doesn't CAUSE the enjoyment of those things though (the way Mo suggests), since, if it is not something you're going to respond to, you simply won't. Might even kill the mood til something better is found.

Porn is also good for women too in the way that, because of modern porn (and other media, but especially porn), many more men have learned about the clit compared to before it was so commonly stimulated in porn. Trust me, I started having sex with men in the 70s, hahahah. They have come a long long way. And even all those anti-porn women are benefitting without realizing it.

I too like porn. Yay porn!!! Big Grin
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RE: refuting misconceptions:1-women in Islam
Scented Nectar Wrote:No one should be forced into any type of job, including porn or hooking. However, if someone voluntarily and informedly enters into such work, it's her or his choice, and it's not up to you to tell them whether they find it humiliating or not. Do you ask house maids whether they find scrubbing other people's toilets humiliating? Maybe that's more humiliating than a job making lots of money in porn.

If you would, please show me 1 employee who makes lots of money in porn. I have significant doubts that they exist... :S
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(June 10, 2010 at 2:32 pm)Saerules Wrote: If you would, please show me 1 employee who makes lots of money in porn. I have significant doubts that they exist... :S
I've heard that in the modern industry, they can make a lot. In fact, it's said to be quite discriminatory in that the women are paid more than the men. This doesn't seem fair, since the men really have to psych themselves up for the part (since they must be hard and come on cue), while the women can act their way through a scene.

I can't remember where I saw or read about the money made these days though, or I'd cite it. I've recently subscribed to a few youtubers who are against reverse sexist radical feminism, and they talk about the sex industry a lot. I got it somewhere there.

Since many parts of the sex industry are illegal though, that means there is likely much more corruption and mistreatment of workers than elsewhere. Someone doing a film to score some drugs her pimp (money stealer) is holding over her, of course gets paid a lot less than a woman keeping her own money from an ethically run business. I also heard that it's much more of an industry standard now to have legal release forms, etc, that protects everyone the same way as with other film industries.
I'm really shitty at giving kudos and rep. That's because I would be inconsistent in remembering to do them, and also I don't really want it to show if any favouritism is happening. Even worse would be inconsistencies causing false favouritisms to show. So, fuck it. Just assume that I've given you some good rep and a number of kudos, and everyone should be happy...
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RE: refuting misconceptions:1-women in Islam
(June 10, 2010 at 12:26 pm)tavarish Wrote: Scented Nectar, I had a discussion at length with one of our resident nutjobs, Pippy about the pros and cons of porn - it's in the News/Activism section under the title "Smut for Smut".
Damn teasers, there was no good porn there! I hadn't realized that Pippy is a conspiratist. I'm going to avoid arguing with him/her to some extent because of that. I get all the fun picking on conspiracy nuts I need with the Freetard on the Lam cult, er, I mean, the Freeman on the Land cult and their den mother, Robert Menard, over at a cannabis forum I go to, where they are trying to recruit any possible gov't-paranoid people with false legal claims. They are connected with the christian militia sovereignty movements in North America, including the infamous Montana Freeman Standoff. Most of the Canadian ones are actually nice people though, and they take debunking and mocking quite well, especially Robbie. I've started a separate youtube channel just to counter the youtube infestation of Cdn freemen. Menard is chomping at the bits for some of us debaters to get into some video debates with him and others. I'm going to go for it, but don't have time yet. The channel is ready and waiting though, and I will tear their legal scammery, including it's theocratic immunity-to-all-laws claims to shreds again, but this time on video, hahahaha. Smile

Pippy, these guys are right up your alley. I think I found your new religion for you. You need be a polytheist no more. You can take on the vaguely interpretted freetard god, named capital-G God, and most often considered by them to be the christian god, but is variable on one's own land seized from the evil gov't. You're welcome.

Future youtube site, a separate one due to the inevitable false flags it will bring, is at...
http://www.youtube.com/user/Robsmybitch
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Perhaps mohammed can explain to us why these guys aren't "islamic" or some such other excuse.

http://afghanistan.blogs.cnn.com/2010/06...es/?hpt=C2


Quote:In disturbing video images, a 14-year-old girl is purportedly being flogged. She is alleged to have run away from a forced marriage in a remote village.

Just as disturbing to Dr. Sima Samar, chair of the Afghanistan Independent Human Rights Commission? "The other sad part I have to say was the reaction of the people," she says. "The lack of sensitivity of the people."


I suppose this is just another of those fucking "misconceptions" he's bitching about.
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i have clarified at my first post about forcing marriages its not from the islam its CULTURE CULTURE CULTURE http://www.cliniclegal.org/blog/1003/for...r-girls-us
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And they use religion to justify it.
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(June 11, 2010 at 10:18 pm)mo3taz3nbar Wrote: i have clarified at my first post about forcing marriages its not from the islam its CULTURE CULTURE CULTURE http://www.cliniclegal.org/blog/1003/for...r-girls-us

Religion is a part of culture Sleepy
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Sorry mate but Islam is just 'SO last millennium' that it really doesn't cut it on today's global stage.

I mean really ....
All of what you have said is just so contradictory your 'Holy Q'ran' so out of date and only fit for a bunch of petty desert goat herders (with sexual hangups and performance anxieties) of 2000 years ago...your rules and regulations governing your day to day behaviour is just so out of step with the majority of thinking on this forum and the world at large.

Islam, Christianity, Judaism are theologies that served their purpose 2000 years ago and have no relevance in today's world... end of story.

There is no god, there is no slavery (although this can be disputed and rightly so), there is no sin,.... but for my own personal perspective


Society can just go jump....leave me be...I'm not hurting anyone
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Even though I hate every religion, Islam and Christianity are the two that piss me off the most. It DOES NOT MATTER what part of your worthless fucking country that men treat women like puppets, it is still pathetic. It just angers me so much that religions like these are allowed to even see the light of day. Both Christianity and Islam view women as inferior beings when compared to men. YOU want to make a valid point??? Okay, I will tell you what I tell Christians. Burn your stupid ass book and stop following fairytales, lies, and just complete bullshit.

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