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RE: You can't be gay in the US
September 9, 2014 at 11:50 pm
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(September 9, 2014 at 11:42 pm)Sejanus Wrote: So you just admitted you would kill gay people for having gay sex. And you call other people homophobes?
It logically follows from this that you are:
1. A fucking monster
2. A good Christian
3. Homophobic
4. Hypocritical
5. A cunt.
Also, I'd like to know who "you people" are. Because I have never dropped any bombs on anyone, and have never supported bombing done by other people.
It logically follows I am a humanist and you don't care about innocent people. Frankly, even if I was anti-Moslem, I wouldn't tell a Moslem they should go kill infidels because of something in the Qur'an....that's just fucking barbaric and frankly, evil. Your avatar fits you perfectly.
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RE: You can't be gay in the US
September 10, 2014 at 12:05 am
(September 9, 2014 at 9:27 pm)Tonus Wrote: Why is the user named Drama Queen one of the few people NOT involved in the drama in this thread?
Mostly because he's sleepy.  J/K it's actually because Polaris can't read what other people's posts are.
And it was actually Paul that claims for instance that the law doesn't have to be followed by Christians.
Luke: You don't believe in the Force, do you?
Han Solo: Kid, I've flown from one side of this galaxy to the other, and I've seen a lot of strange stuff, but I've never seen *anything* to make me believe that there's one all-powerful Force controlling everything. 'Cause no mystical energy field controls *my* destiny. It's all a lot of simple tricks and nonsense.
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RE: You can't be gay in the US
September 10, 2014 at 12:08 am
(September 10, 2014 at 12:05 am)StealthySkeptic Wrote: (September 9, 2014 at 9:27 pm)Tonus Wrote: Why is the user named Drama Queen one of the few people NOT involved in the drama in this thread?
Mostly because he's sleepy. J/K it's actually because Polaris can't read what other people's posts are.
And it was actually Paul that claims for instance that the law doesn't have to be followed by Christians.
Because being attacked as a homophobe for advocating against passive homophobia is nothing like that....
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RE: You can't be gay in the US
September 10, 2014 at 12:21 am
Actually you weren't advocating against passive homophobia (whatever that is), you were accusing us of being homophobes.
Still, the point is that your post was somehow misunderstood and then the post in response was also misunderstood. And Diablo is actually the only person who has said anything homophobic in this thread.
Well this was fun.
/homophobiathread
Now....
mouthbutt thread
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RE: You can't be gay in the US
September 10, 2014 at 12:25 am
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(September 10, 2014 at 12:21 am)Losty Wrote: Actually you weren't advocating against passive homophobia (whatever that is), you were accusing us of being homophobes.
Still, the point is that your post was somehow misunderstood and then the post in response was also misunderstood. And Diablo is actually the only person who has said anything homophobic in this thread.
Well this was fun.
/homophobiathread
Now....
mouthbutt thread
Maybe I was being too broad. My bad. Sorry.
I was talking about atheists I have met who always cracked jokes about gay people or someone being gay to the point I could tell they weren't really joking anymore....it started to feel uncomfortable.
On the other hand, I've only met one or two Christians who I felt a sense of homophobia (maybe because they weren't as restrained as other theists)...one who got upset when I mentioned a Star Trek web series that had a homosexual scene and one who did not thought Neil Patrick Harris was faking being gay (OK, maybe just one).
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RE: You can't be gay in the US
September 10, 2014 at 4:38 am
(This post was last modified: September 10, 2014 at 9:50 am by Fidel_Castronaut.)
A comedian here, Jimmy Carr (who I'm not a fan of) once made a joke about disabled servicemen coming home from Iraq being a good thing because it meant the British Paralympics team would almost certainly win on the medals table for 2012.
A lot of people got offended by that, decrying him as making fun of disability and for advocating stereotypes. What those people failed to realise was that he was simply repeating jokes he'd heard being made by disabled servicemen and women who themselves had applied to become part of the British Paralympcs team as part of their rehabiliation.
Thing is, very few comedians actually make a joke about, say, homosexuality as an actual attack on homosexuality. You could view it as a slight against being gay, but I think that would be wrong. Making light of something in such a way is actually a way for society to reflect on it. It's often by making subjects a taboo that we see things becomming more nefarious. By allowing any matter to be discussed we encourage debate and mainstreaming. Just think about homosexuality as a topic of discussion. 100 years ago, even 50 years ago, even today in some parts of the world, even talking about with anything other than negative connotations (with dislike/hate implied) will land you in hot water (Uganda, Saudi, even parts of the US).
It reminds me about this:
Does Jim actually hate lesbians? No, he doesn't. But he's making fun of them in the same way he'd make fun of his mates down the pub because he can, and because it isn't taboo to do it. And it isn't taboo because (at least here in the UK) being a lesbian is no big deal. If you're a lesbian nobody cares that you're a lesbian unless they object to it, and that's a massive change from what was the status quo maybe even 30, 40 years ago or whatever.
If you don't find the humour funny then that's cool. But not finding it funny IMHO is very different to finding it nefarious.
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RE: You can't be gay in the US
September 10, 2014 at 8:52 am
(September 9, 2014 at 9:35 pm)Polaris Wrote: (September 9, 2014 at 9:33 pm)Exian Wrote: I just can't fucking track what's going on here anymore. It just keeps bouncing around.
Just a bunch of conservatives thinking their anti-theism is better than adhering to secular humanist values.
Did you even look at the political spectrum analyzer thread? A vast majority of people on this site are pretty non-conservative. Their so called "anti-theism" is them attempting to call you on your overreaction and Bible-command dodging. Their values have nothing to do with the challenges that they are presenting to you about your faith.
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RE: You can't be gay in the US
September 10, 2014 at 8:53 am
(September 10, 2014 at 8:52 am)Endo Wrote: (September 9, 2014 at 9:35 pm)Polaris Wrote: Just a bunch of conservatives thinking their anti-theism is better than adhering to secular humanist values.
Did you even look at the political spectrum analyzer thread? A vast majority of people on this site are pretty non-conservative. Their so called "anti-theism" is them attempting to call you on your overreaction and Bible-command dodging. Their values have nothing to do with the challenges that they are presenting to you about your faith.
Usually theists call us all socialist or communist, rare to find one that throws out "conservative" as an insult.
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RE: You can't be gay in the US
September 10, 2014 at 9:48 am
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RE: You can't be gay in the US
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