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Greetings from a Christian
#71
RE: Greetings from a Christian
(October 5, 2014 at 3:45 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: The only people God ordered the destruction of where the nations that were wicked

Yet, god has nothing against iron chariots. Haven't you read your bible?
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#72
RE: Greetings from a Christian
(October 5, 2014 at 3:45 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: The only people God ordered the destruction of where the nations that were wicked

According to the old book that you believe because the book says you should believe it. I'm impressed. Do you have any substantial reason aside from that for believing that such a thing happened?

It's like you've never heard of propaganda.
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#73
RE: Greetings from a Christian
I have heard of propoganda and yes the destruction of nations was a boost to the Israelites picture.

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#74
RE: Greetings from a Christian
(October 5, 2014 at 3:45 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: The only people God ordered the destruction of where the nations that were wicked
That was just the excuse given. He wanted the land, and since he was the almighty god and powerful and wise beyond imagining, he came up with a revolutionary solution: massacre every man, woman, and child (except for those occasions when he allowed the Israelites to take virgin girls as wives, which you probably consider to be "mercy").
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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#75
RE: Greetings from a Christian
Think what you want, that is your belief.
I have my own beliefs.

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#76
RE: Greetings from a Christian
(October 5, 2014 at 3:48 pm)genkaus Wrote:
(October 5, 2014 at 3:35 pm)bladevalant546 Wrote: Now, how this pertains to christians killing babies or children. Well considering reading the NT it seem pretty clear that child mutilation and slaughter IS NOT a tenant of the christian faith.

Really? And which part of the NT establishes that?

Fair question, however many of the verses of Jesus permitting children to come to him, to turning the other cheek, or helping the poor and those less fortunate. Also, anyone tries to bring up the verses about the peace and bringing a sword. Jesus, like most "philosophers" spoke in parables that are usually meaning something beyond its literal semantic meaning. This is rather obvious as it is common in other religions too.

I am not advocating the belief, I just rather have informed discussions.
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#77
RE: Greetings from a Christian
(October 5, 2014 at 4:01 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: Think what you want, that is your belief.
I have my own beliefs.
You do. Not that they are justified. I for one care if my beliefs are true.
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#78
RE: Greetings from a Christian
Re: the OP - like others before me, I never lost any faith. I never had any to lose. I've never come across a theistic argument yet that I find plausible, let alone compelling. As far as I can tell, the Universe works perfectly fine without a god at the tiller. So either a god is unnecessary or it operates in a way that makes a god appear unnecessary and hence irrelevant. Thus it can be cut out of the picture with no effect on reality.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#79
RE: Greetings from a Christian
(October 5, 2014 at 4:05 pm)LastPoet Wrote:
(October 5, 2014 at 4:01 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: Think what you want, that is your belief.
I have my own beliefs.
You do. Not that they are justified. I for one care if my beliefs are true.

So where is your proof for they claim you made.

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#80
RE: Greetings from a Christian
(October 5, 2014 at 4:04 pm)bladevalant546 Wrote: Fair question, however many of the verses of Jesus permitting children to come to him, to turning the other cheek, or helping the poor and those less fortunate. Also, anyone tries to bring up the verses about the peace and bringing a sword. Jesus, like most "philosophers" spoke in parables that are usually meaning something beyond its literal semantic meaning. This is rather obvious as it is common in other religions too.

I am not advocating the belief, I just rather have informed discussions.

So, the parts you find nice are to be taken as literal and the ones you don't are considered parables that go beyond literal meaning?

The belief you are advocating here is that NT is against child slaughter - and I'm still not seeing it.
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