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RE: Ark Sunk
December 12, 2014 at 9:43 pm
(December 12, 2014 at 7:24 pm)Heywood Wrote: Except they were not using public money to build the site.
What they were promised was a sales tax rebate after they spend their own money to build the site.
A tax rebate is no more no less than a gift from the government. Gifts from the government are government support.
If people who didn't attend church got a 10% rebate on income taxes paid, would you consider that a government gift? I bet you would. This is no different. Exemption from a tax or reduction of a tax which is ordinary paid by everyone else is government support.
It remains government support whether the government gives them to promote charity, job development, tourism, renewable energy, religious services, environmental protection, education, reparations for past discrimination, getting a football team in town, or any other reason. That is why church tax exemptions of any kind are a form of government support.
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god. If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.
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RE: Ark Sunk
December 12, 2014 at 9:53 pm
(December 12, 2014 at 9:25 pm)Tonus Wrote: (December 12, 2014 at 9:17 pm)Minimalist Wrote: I wonder where they'll get the dinosaurs? Got three of them right here:
![[Image: ken-woodstock-oct-2008-097.jpg]](https://howgoodisthat.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/ken-woodstock-oct-2008-097.jpg)
Dinosaurs. Not assholes.
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RE: Ark Sunk
December 12, 2014 at 10:04 pm
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(December 12, 2014 at 9:43 pm)Jenny A Wrote: (December 12, 2014 at 7:24 pm)Heywood Wrote: Except they were not using public money to build the site.
What they were promised was a sales tax rebate after they spend their own money to build the site.
A tax rebate is no more no less than a gift from the government. Gifts from the government are government support.
If people who didn't attend church got a 10% rebate on income taxes paid, would you consider that a government gift? I bet you would. This is no different. Exemption from a tax or reduction of a tax which is ordinary paid by everyone else is government support.
It remains government support whether the government gives them to promote charity, job development, tourism, renewable energy, religious services, environmental protection, education, reparations for past discrimination, getting a football team in town, or any other reason. That is why church tax exemptions of any kind are a form of government support.
Taxes are the government's way of forcing people to support it. When the state grants a tax exemption it is simply saying it will not force this particular entity to support it. This perspective is at least as equally valid as yours if not more valid. Further, the whole point of this program is to help bring sales tax revenue....or support....to the state. How can this program be both? How can it be the state supporting tourist attractions and tourist attractions supporting the state?
Ideally I would like to see donations to non profits and religious organizations non deductible. I'd like to see no corporate tax and instead tax dividends at the individual rate. Corporation which wish to retain their earnings would issue statements to their share holders detailing what their dividend would have been had they not retained earnings and then individuals can pay tax on that. Individuals should pay taxes as individuals and not when they come together to engage in some activity. The tax code should be simple. People earn this much, they pay this much in tax.
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RE: Ark Sunk
December 13, 2014 at 8:09 am
(December 12, 2014 at 9:25 pm)Tonus Wrote:
All three of them, together, in the same enclosed space, and the only thing someone had to hand to shoot the bastards with was a camera?
Proof that there's no god right there.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Ark Sunk
December 13, 2014 at 8:13 am
Argh! I feel ill. I'm surprised the camera had enough definition to record all that dishonesty in one picture.
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RE: Ark Sunk
December 13, 2014 at 8:32 am
(December 12, 2014 at 9:41 pm)Chuck Wrote: You realize dinosaurs were not dumb reptiles, right? Natural selection has not been kind to them.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
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RE: Ark Sunk
December 13, 2014 at 8:36 am
(December 13, 2014 at 8:09 am)Stimbo Wrote: [quote='Tonus' pid='817277' dateline='1418433926']
The combined IQ of all three does not go into double digits.
You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.
Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis.
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